Toyota mechanic stalling my car....

[4agze]

Originally Posted by aghuman

So I went in for my first oil change yesterday (As much as I'd like to do them myself, I don't want anything biting me in the ass when it comes to warranty issues, especially down the road in a first gen car). So I was told it would take about an hour and a half so I went outside 45 min later to find my car in the lot looking like something was odd. It was a little far away but I saw it rolling forward when in reverse then heard the engine starting up again, and again, (initially I was a bit stunned cause I was almost certain these guys would know how to drive stick so I didn't want to jump to conclusions). In the end by the time I ran to the car, he had stalled 5 times from what I counted and scary part is it's only what I saw, I don't know how long he'd been there or what happened before. I asked him how many times he stalled and he said once to i told him to gtfo of my car, I reported him to the service manager who fed me this bs that he could stall the car continuously for 8 hours and not do any damage. I got it in writing that he stalled 5 times but I wanted some advice.

First off, how bad is stalling?
Secondly should I pursue this matter further?

Thanks

first off you don't void your warranties if you do your own oil change no matter if its first time or the 100 time

second you should have asked why they send a technician who don't know how to drive a manual transmission

[4agze]

o yeah I for got to say when its my turn to buy a FRS or BRZ and they tell me my first oil change is free I'll just say "how about just give me 3 oem oil filter and we are all square"

[Bt216]

That's why I do my oil changes. They cant deny you the warranty because you don't take your car there for oil changes..that's stupid. Theres always incompetent people at the dealers.

[Whitigir]

Originally Posted by Mikem53

What? The clutch isn't going to get burnt unless they are slipping it .. And that is the opposite of stalling.. Even that takes a fair amount of abuse to do and certainly not in a confined space in a garage.. Not without being noticed.
And a broken timing belt or chain doesn't mean a trashed engine.. It's by design.. A non-interference engine will not be damaged when the timing belt breaks. And #2 makes no sense at all..

Burnt clutch i mentioned about meant glazed, reduced clutch life, not a complete burnt out....use your brain, please. If a person doesnt know to drive MT, and he stall your engine without the clutch smell, i think you are on crack or a moron of some short.

Most of the engines in the market will be trashed if timing belt broke, show me a cheap car with an engine that wont be trashed with a broken timing belt. Yeah

#2 makes no sense to you ? Let me spell it out for you.

Excessive coolant...or gas or oil build excessive carbon in the chamber which will damage the engine performance in time.

Excessive air will cause lean burn of the mixture which result in overheating the engine, and melt down, burn a whole, whatever

Excessive air will also cause detonation on which the compressed air reach the maximum designed ignition temperature point in the chamber and cause the air and gas mixture to explode.


If you want to learn more. Please buy a book, take a class. I am not your teacher, and i dont earn money here.

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

Burnt clutch i mentioned about meant glazed, reduced clutch life, not a complete burnt out....use your brain, please. If a person doesnt know to drive MT, and he stall your engine without the clutch smell, i think you are on crack.

Most of the engines in the market will be trashed if timing belt broke, show me a cheap car with an engine that wont be trashed with a broken timing belt. Yeah

#2 makes no sense to you ? Let me spell it out for you.

Excessive coolant...or gas or oil build excessive carbon in the chamber which will damage the engine performance in time.

Excessive air will cause lean burn of the mixture which result in overheating the engine, and melt down, burn a whole, whatever

Excessive air will also cause detonation on which the compressed air reach the maximum designed ignition temperature point in the chamber and cause the air and gas mixture to explode.


If you want to learn more. Please buy a book, take a class. I am not your teacher, and i dont earn money here.

if its a non-interference engine... the engine won't get trashed... whoever the great majority of engine are interference engines

[driftartist]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

Burnt clutch i mentioned about meant glazed, reduced clutch life, not a complete burnt out....use your brain, please. If a person doesnt know to drive MT, and he stall your engine without the clutch smell, i think you are on crack or a moron of some short.

Most of the engines in the market will be trashed if timing belt broke, show me a cheap car with an engine that wont be trashed with a broken timing belt. Yeah

#2 makes no sense to you ? Let me spell it out for you.

Excessive coolant...or gas or oil build excessive carbon in the chamber which will damage the engine performance in time.

Excessive air will cause lean burn of the mixture which result in overheating the engine, and melt down, burn a whole, whatever

Excessive air will also cause detonation on which the compressed air reach the maximum designed ignition temperature point in the chamber and cause the air and gas mixture to explode.


If you want to learn more. Please buy a book, take a class. I am not your teacher, and i don't earn money here.

If you plan on being a "know-it-all" and try to correct people, especially if you are using the phrase "let me spell it out for you," please learn to spell. Also work on your grammar. Thank you. Come on guys you know all who read that quote was thinking the same thing.

[GTB/ZR-1]

I can work on 'em--I just can't drive 'em! lol

[Whitigir]

Originally Posted by driftartist

If you plan on being a "know-it-all" and try to correct people, especially if you are using the phrase "let me spell it out for you," please learn to spell. Also work on your grammar. Thank you. Come on guys you know all who read that quote was thinking the same thing.

Never said "i know it all"

Sorry grammar nazi, i have more than 1 language. I am not here to learn english.

Du me ngu nhu cho ma bay dat xao lon.

Thank you bro, until you learn to speak more than one language fluently, come back to me and we continue. You are welcome to do google translation too.

Also welcome you to correct my grammar under your expertise.

[Whitigir]

Originally Posted by Luis_GT

if its a non-interference engine... the engine won't get trashed... whoever the great majority of engine are interference engines

1/ is frs non interference ?
2/ i speak for majority of common engines.
3/ there are much more if you get in-depth. I was only talking to Op under his specific condition, and an example of his particular car of what could have damaged the engine.

4/ you are welcome to give any example on any particular car about the non interference engine.

[driftartist]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

Never said "i know it all"

Sorry grammar nazi, i have more than 1 language.

Du me ngu nhu cho ma bay dat xao lon.

Thank you bro, until you learn to speak more than one language fluently, come back to me and we continue. You are welcome to do google translation too.

Also welcome you to correct my grammar under your expertise.

Meant no hostility to you at all so I apologize for the misinterpretation, I was merely requesting less ignorant posts from you. But I will end it here.

[Whitigir]

Originally Posted by driftartist

Meant no hostility to you at all so I apologize for the misinterpretation, I was merely requesting less ignorant posts from you. But I will end it here.

It s alright. I was just a little pissed at the guy who said #2 doesnt make sense. But i should just told him to learn more about it.

I apologize to you too

[driftartist]

hey no worries man. i know how it goes sometimes. keep driving

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

Never said "i know it all"

Sorry grammar nazi, i have more than 1 language. I am not here to learn english.

Du me ngu nhu cho ma bay dat xao lon.

Thank you bro, until you learn to speak more than one language fluently, come back to me and we continue. You are welcome to do google translation too.

Also welcome you to correct my grammar under your expertise.

try getting one language right first..
#1 was wrong
and #2 is just mindless dribble.. learn something first before you try
and enlighten others.

"2/ Excessive Input toward the Combustion Chamber (Too much Air, Gas, Spark, Coolant, Oil) Usually These are seen in Bad or Old Engine, or Forced Induction engine with a good Tune."

[Vmax911]

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere

It was prob an inexperienced manual driver trying NOT to burn the clutch in your nice FR-S.

Not a big deal.

I agree. And I'd rather have some one try to gently get the car moving than some one saying "screw it," hitting the gas, and dumping the clutch.