Coldest start possible on e85 stag2 oft? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

trdric · 03-14-2015, 02:25 PM

What temperature where you guys able to start your car on e85? its roughly -10C (14F) here in the morning and I wanted to know if the car will start if I switch over to E85.

If not, what temperature do you think I will start without any issues !

Jyn · 03-14-2015, 10:06 PM

lmao mine had trouble starting when it was 50*F. I switched back to 93 octane because of it, but they say mixing in a little bit of 93 octane will help bring the e-content down enough to where starting isn't a problem. I'd recommend getting a flex fuel kit at that point.

steve99 · 03-15-2015, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by trdric

What temperature where you guys able to start your car on e85? its roughly -10C (14F) here in the morning and I wanted to know if the car will start if I switch over to E85.

If not, what temperature do you think I will start without any issues !

Getting E85 to start at those temps is going to be difficult.
It might be best to wait till it warms up a bit, or have a can of engine start handy.

cold start mods these guys did worked down about 20 degrees.
you can also add a gallon or so of petrol to make starts easier
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=40

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67310

A flex fuel kit wont help starts on E85 , its just the properties of ethanol that make it hard to start.

trdric · 03-16-2015, 02:18 PM

for information, the car started easily this morning at -5C(23F)

D_Thissen · 03-16-2015, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by trdric

for information, the car started easily this morning at -5C(23F)

Was the car in the garage or plugged in by any chance?

trdric · 03-16-2015, 04:42 PM

nop outsde for night. i was home at 8pm and drove away this morning at 7AM

Silver Ignition · 03-16-2015, 05:18 PM

I'll usually have pops and weird idle for the first few minutes under 40*F even with the cold-start IPW changes. Lowest I dropped down to using e85 this winter was about 25*F and started on the first try, albeit with the aforementioned pops and weird idle...

carlitosway6891 · 03-16-2015, 05:50 PM

anything at or lower than 50 degrees and mine would take several attemps to get started. back on 93 till it stays warm =(

bfrank1972 · 03-16-2015, 05:55 PM

Depending on where you are, you might not be getting E85 from the pumps - in colder climates they switch to a winder blend with less E content to help the flex fuel vehicles with starting in very cold weather.

trdric · 03-16-2015, 06:08 PM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceFu46s72Vs"]e85 cold start -5C - YouTube[/ame]

video of is starting

steve99 · 03-16-2015, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by trdric

for information, the car started easily this morning at -5C(23F)

Assume that was with cold start mods ??

trdric · 03-16-2015, 06:45 PM

not at all im new to OFT and havent done anything other than writing

cawith · 03-16-2015, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ignition

I'll usually have pops and weird idle for the first few minutes under 40*F even with the cold-start IPW changes. Lowest I dropped down to using e85 this winter was about 25*F and started on the first try, albeit with the aforementioned pops and weird idle...

I have had the same issue and I'd also done the IPW changes.
Don't know what the popping is, but it doesn't sound very good. Found out that if I revved it to 2500-3000 rpm just once immediately after the engine had turned on, then the popping would not happen. Have you tried that?

momo3605 · 03-16-2015, 09:38 PM

The popping is just excess fuel being burnt. By giving gas, you push more fuel, so it ignites on the exhaust side causing the pop. It's harmless. There's a thread dedicated to how to get the car to pop and crackle more

Mini Coopers and Abarth's pop and crackle like crazy

03-14-2015, 02:25 PM	#1
trdric Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: fr-s Location: Gatineau Posts: 65 Thanks: 3 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Coldest start possible on e85 stag2 oft? What temperature where you guys able to start your car on e85? its roughly -10C (14F) here in the morning and I wanted to know if the car will start if I switch over to E85. If not, what temperature do you think I will start without any issues !

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Jyn Noob Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: FR-S Mammogram Location: Austin Posts: 1,594 Thanks: 577 Thanked 888 Times in 485 Posts Mentioned: 24 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	lmao mine had trouble starting when it was 50F. I switched back to 93 octane because of it, but they say mixing in a little bit of 93 octane will help bring the e-content down enough to where starting isn't a problem. I'd recommend getting a flex fuel kit at that point. __________________ :@ChaoyD*

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trdric Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: fr-s Location: Gatineau Posts: 65 Thanks: 3 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	nop outsde for night. i was home at 8pm and drove away this morning at 7AM

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bfrank1972 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Argento Location: Westport,CT Posts: 1,855 Thanks: 517 Thanked 1,041 Times in 616 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Depending on where you are, you might not be getting E85 from the pumps - in colder climates they switch to a winder blend with less E content to help the flex fuel vehicles with starting in very cold weather.

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trdric Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: fr-s Location: Gatineau Posts: 65 Thanks: 3 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceFu46s72Vs"]e85 cold start -5C - YouTube[/ame] video of is starting

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trdric Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: fr-s Location: Gatineau Posts: 65 Thanks: 3 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	not at all im new to OFT and havent done anything other than writing

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momo3605 Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: 2014 Fr-S Monogram Location: Bay Area Posts: 48 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The popping is just excess fuel being burnt. By giving gas, you push more fuel, so it ignites on the exhaust side causing the pop. It's harmless. There's a thread dedicated to how to get the car to pop and crackle more Mini Coopers and Abarth's pop and crackle like crazy

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