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trdric 03-14-2015 02:25 PM

Coldest start possible on e85 stag2 oft?
 
What temperature where you guys able to start your car on e85? its roughly -10C (14F) here in the morning and I wanted to know if the car will start if I switch over to E85.


If not, what temperature do you think I will start without any issues !

Jyn 03-14-2015 10:06 PM

lmao mine had trouble starting when it was 50*F. I switched back to 93 octane because of it, but they say mixing in a little bit of 93 octane will help bring the e-content down enough to where starting isn't a problem. I'd recommend getting a flex fuel kit at that point.

steve99 03-15-2015 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by trdric (Post 2168966)
What temperature where you guys able to start your car on e85? its roughly -10C (14F) here in the morning and I wanted to know if the car will start if I switch over to E85.


If not, what temperature do you think I will start without any issues !

Getting E85 to start at those temps is going to be difficult.
It might be best to wait till it warms up a bit, or have a can of engine start handy.

cold start mods these guys did worked down about 20 degrees.
you can also add a gallon or so of petrol to make starts easier
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=40



http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67310


A flex fuel kit wont help starts on E85 , its just the properties of ethanol that make it hard to start.

trdric 03-16-2015 02:18 PM

for information, the car started easily this morning at -5C(23F)

D_Thissen 03-16-2015 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by trdric (Post 2171030)
for information, the car started easily this morning at -5C(23F)

Was the car in the garage or plugged in by any chance?

trdric 03-16-2015 04:42 PM

nop outsde for night. i was home at 8pm and drove away this morning at 7AM

Silver Ignition 03-16-2015 05:18 PM

I'll usually have pops and weird idle for the first few minutes under 40*F even with the cold-start IPW changes. Lowest I dropped down to using e85 this winter was about 25*F and started on the first try, albeit with the aforementioned pops and weird idle...

carlitosway6891 03-16-2015 05:50 PM

anything at or lower than 50 degrees and mine would take several attemps to get started. back on 93 till it stays warm =(

bfrank1972 03-16-2015 05:55 PM

Depending on where you are, you might not be getting E85 from the pumps - in colder climates they switch to a winder blend with less E content to help the flex fuel vehicles with starting in very cold weather.

trdric 03-16-2015 06:08 PM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceFu46s72Vs"]e85 cold start -5C - YouTube[/ame]

video of is starting

steve99 03-16-2015 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by trdric (Post 2171030)
for information, the car started easily this morning at -5C(23F)


Assume that was with cold start mods ??

trdric 03-16-2015 06:45 PM

not at all im new to OFT and havent done anything other than writing

cawith 03-16-2015 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ignition (Post 2171282)
I'll usually have pops and weird idle for the first few minutes under 40*F even with the cold-start IPW changes. Lowest I dropped down to using e85 this winter was about 25*F and started on the first try, albeit with the aforementioned pops and weird idle...

I have had the same issue and I'd also done the IPW changes.
Don't know what the popping is, but it doesn't sound very good. Found out that if I revved it to 2500-3000 rpm just once immediately after the engine had turned on, then the popping would not happen. Have you tried that?

momo3605 03-16-2015 09:38 PM

The popping is just excess fuel being burnt. By giving gas, you push more fuel, so it ignites on the exhaust side causing the pop. It's harmless. There's a thread dedicated to how to get the car to pop and crackle more :D Mini Coopers and Abarth's pop and crackle like crazy


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