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Old 03-24-2017, 03:04 PM   #3403
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17x8 45mm offset 215/45/17 front
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The front will fit, can confirm (running this on stock suspension). Dont know about the rear, but clearing to the suspension springs will be tight, might need a 3-5mm spacer.
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Old 03-24-2017, 05:32 PM   #3404
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17x8 45mm offset 215/45/17 front
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It will fit. 225/45 better for the 17x8 and will match the 255/40 better. Search and read why staggered is not good for this car.
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Old 03-24-2017, 05:37 PM   #3405
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Thanks guys. I figured I'd just ship it to his new place so I have a little more time to do some reading.

If I had to say either or, I'd say form over function. However, I did mention he's crashed in the rain before and we frequently do some sketchy mountain/canyon runs, but I know he's probably never going to the track.

Is running 18's on the BRZ like running 19's on an Evo X, "not the norm"? If so, I'll probably stick with 17 even though I was considering 18. As far a width, might step it down to 8.5. I just want something that will fill out the wheel well and be flush without rubbing at 1-1.5 drop. I'll be getting the appropriate spacers for the rear.

My coworker was telling me 17x9 +35 would be flush at the front at 1-1.5 drop, despite it being considerably higher than what the chart says.

Or better yet, I'll just ask: what do you guys think I should get to be flush front and rear at a 1-1.5 drop. He'll just have to buy tires that fit the wheel after.

These are the requirements:

-8in width, minumum
-As little stretch as possible
-1-1.5 inch drop
-As close to flush as possible

17x8.5 +30/+35 are what I've kinda narrowed it down to.
Yes, 18's are like 19's on a evo. Looks great but excessive weight and tire cost.

17x9 +35 would be the best choice for function and form(in 17"). It won't rub with 245/40. That setup is probably the most common for these cars.
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:24 PM   #3406
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Appreciate the confirmation. I'm aware many here aren't a fan of staggered on this car, but being my daily driver, its not like I'm driving at 10/10ths much of the time... Plus, once the supercharger is installed I doubt I'll have much problem hanging the ass out when I so desire. :burn rubber:

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Even for daily driver it's arguable. Electronic nannies won't work properly, braking with bias made for stock, will be worse, and one won't be able to rotate tires to get most out of them. All that for what - for what you think will look cooler (but probably others won't notice) and what you know - will make everything worse/less reliable and more expensive.
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It'll fit. But it'll make your car handle like a dump truck.


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Appreciate the confirmation. I'm aware many here aren't a fan of staggered on this car, but being my daily driver, its not like I'm driving at 10/10ths much of the time... Plus, once the supercharger is installed I doubt I'll have much problem hanging the ass out when I so desire. :burn rubber:



But thanks for the heads up!


More power isn't going to make the front turn better. While you think you'll be hanging the ass out you'll really just be pushing the front end, which you've for some reason handicapped.


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More power isn't going to make the front turn better. While you think you'll be hanging the ass out you'll really just be pushing the front end, which you've for some reason handicapped.


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If its really that terrible, I'll swap the rears for 8s... But I have a feeling the issue is over hyped for 95% of street driving... Sure, maybe when Im really pushing it super hard on a back road i might notice a difference... But in all honesty, understeer/oversteer is not a realistic issue on my commute to and from work. I dont know about where you live and drive, but here in Baltimore city its frowned upon to take corners so hard your tires squeel on a regular basis.

I once bought a 98 vw gti that had a staggered setup left on it from the previous owner. I imagined the handling would be horrid, being fwd and all, and expected to swap the wheels asap... Well, I never got around to it, drove it for two years, hard, and never had any issues. Was there understeer? You betcha! Was it a huge problem? No, anytime I noticed it, I realized I should probably be driving more responsibly on the street lol. Maybe Im getting old.

I wouldn't run this setup on a track car, but for cruising to work, I think the issue might be overblown. Will report back with results!
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Gonna need coilovers to pull it off or you'll be poking by 3/8"-1/2" would be my guess.
would you need coils for 18x9.5 et35 on stock suspension??
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James The Giant: daily driving & like family car with excessive safety margin everywhere .. maybe. Just that i tend to notice that since buying this car i tend to often push it for fun much more leaving that margin less. Like turning in crossroads without slowing down (even if speed still within legal range) with slight tire chirp/slight drift and so on. Or still going fast in limited grip situations like in winter on snow/ice, where even driving normally will reduce safety margin by a lot and understeer will show true colors. I wouldn't want to drive car that i bought for fun to drive as sedate as i had driven family haulers (or as slow as their heavy/less powered/rolling nature allowed) only because for unknown reasons when everybody said to not worsen handling by doing that but i would have done nevertheless. And paying own money for willing worsening to make car handle worse to be driveable only as generic ones at best to not hit kerb. I wonder if it's in spite to someone or if some local .. "specialist" has made you believe some fairy tales?
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would you need coils for 18x9.5 et35 on stock suspension??
No. Though it'll poke like mad
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No. Though it'll poke like mad
Thanks bro!! That all i needed to know ... Thats the goal, ultimate amount of poke on stock height and when i get bags, hopefully it will sit as flush as possible ... any knowledge about that?
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If its really that terrible, I'll swap the rears for 8s... But I have a feeling the issue is over hyped for 95% of street driving... Sure, maybe when Im really pushing it super hard on a back road i might notice a difference... But in all honesty, understeer/oversteer is not a realistic issue on my commute to and from work. I dont know about where you live and drive, but here in Baltimore city its frowned upon to take corners so hard your tires squeel on a regular basis.

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I wouldn't run this setup on a track car, but for cruising to work, I think the issue might be overblown. Will report back with results!

Yeah for DDing it's fine

Why not go 9" in the front?? Easy to fit, looks good.
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Its pretty simple, I just like grip. I like taking corners fast too, only I'd rather the rear not slide out on me. I also like the way fat wheels look, sue me lol. If I was racing I would care about minor performance loss, but since Im just driving around normal places, i doubt having a little extra traction out back will suck the fun out of a boosted rwd sports car.

I'd bet $100 it'll pass the doughnut test!!

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