for those who are buying the BRZs, what made you pick BRZ over Scion FRS?

[CLTBRZ]

Originally Posted by tripjammer

I am with you...why get the base model? Limited is the only way to roll in the BRZ!

<- Definitely in for the Limited as well.

[Longhorn248]

Originally Posted by Zgrinch

This makes sense. Maybe have a three strike and your out rule. I guarantee after a couple warnings, some the repeat offenders with several hundred posts under their belt would think twice because they would hate to lose their user name and start back with a noob status.

It doesn't even require hard and fast rules as to what warrants a warning or ban. That type of stuff can be left up to the moderators once Hachi starts needing more people to keep the place civil. A lot of it is going to be personal judgement. It's like Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart said regarding pornography, "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material...But I know it when I see it".

[coyote]

Image perception is a massive determining factor in vehicle purchase. If it wasn't, Porsche and Ferrari would go broke.

I didn't see the "poor vs rich" post, but if one car is associated with teenage kids hanging out at night and playing drift kings in an industrial estate, I'd buy the other one.

[Zgrinch]

Originally Posted by Longhorn248

It doesn't even require hard and fast rules as to what warrants a warning or ban. That type of stuff can be left up to the moderators once Hachi starts needing more people to keep the place civil. A lot of it is going to be personal judgement. It's like Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart said regarding pornography, "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material...But I know it when I see it".

I hear you loud and clear, not looking to make things too formal around here, and I have full faith in Hachi to keep the forum in check, especially based on how quickly he just acted.
Im just being a little zealous in wanting those who act like immature spoiled brats to get the hint and get with the program.

I think I've made my point and I'm at peace now.....

[Zaku]

Just wait for that one immature brat who has a rich parent who just right off buy him a BRZ limited as a graduation present from HS or for his Birthday. Then... then my good Gents well have a problem on our hands.

I'm gonna go ahead and be honest and just say I can't afford the BRZ if it's over 25k It goes against my set monthly price and I'm not willing to put my self in a struggle in today's Economy. I'll play it safe. But you know if one of you in the future decides eh I want a Limited and is selling your Premium If I haven't jumped on the FRS ship I like to purchase please.... T^T!!!

[CLTBRZ]

Originally Posted by Zaku

Just wait for that one immature brat who has a rich parent who just right off buy him a BRZ limited as a graduation present from HS or for his Birthday. Then... then my good Gents well have a problem on our hands.

I'm gonna go ahead and be honest and just say I can't afford the BRZ if it's over 25k It goes against my set monthly price and I'm not willing to put my self in a struggle in today's Economy. I'll play it safe. But you know if one of you in the future decides eh I want a Limited and is selling your Premium If I haven't jumped on the FRS ship I like to purchase please.... T^T!!!

Why is it only immature brats that have rich parents who buy them things as rewards? I didn't realize there was so much hostility towards people who can afford nice things

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by CLTBRZ

Why is it only immature brats that have rich parents who buy them things as rewards? I didn't realize there was so much hostility towards people who can afford nice things

Well I did only specify "ONE" meaning they're only a Hypothetical One, One kid. Don't mean to offend no one mate or lump a mass if I did that I would probrably worded it differently,In this case I only mean One kid. It was a hypothetical for fun and giggles.

Sorry If I made anyone feel bad.

[Zgrinch]

Originally Posted by Zaku

Just wait for that one immature brat who has a rich parent who just right off buy him a BRZ limited as a graduation present from HS or for his Birthday. Then... then my good Gents well have a problem on our hands.

I'm gonna go ahead and be honest and just say I can't afford the BRZ if it's over 25k It goes against my set monthly price and I'm not willing to put my self in a struggle in today's Economy. I'll play it safe. But you know if one of you in the future decides eh I want a Limited and is selling your Premium If I haven't jumped on the FRS ship I like to purchase please.... T^T!!!

As a parent of four, I admit that I have helped(somewhat) my oldest son get his first car. But, that was a used 2003 model, not a brand new 24kish sports car and so you are right that some parents will be able to do that, and others like me will not. I totally get the budget you are dealing with. I respect it, as I have been in the same spot. The whole point of this forum is that everyone has different views and wants for the car. I felt like I was being put into an uncomfortable box, and being portrayed as some snob who was looking to jack up the prices for the rest of the group. Maybe that wasn't the intent, but it sure felt like it. Honestly, I sincerely hope the premium BRZ comes with everything you want for $23,999

Peace

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by Zgrinch

As a parent of four, I admit that I have helped(somewhat) my oldest son get his first car. But, that was a used 2003 model, not a brand new 24kish sports car and so you are right that some parents will be able to do that, and others like me will not. I totally get the budget you are dealing with. I respect it, as I have been in the same spot. The whole point of this forum is that everyone has different views and wants for the car. I felt like I was being put into an uncomfortable box, and being portrayed as some snob who was looking to jack up the prices for the rest of the group. Maybe that wasn't the intent, but it sure felt like it. Honestly, I sincerely hope the premium BRZ comes with everything you want for $23,999

Peace

Naw Zgrinch you're a good member and I say a damn awesome parent, kudos on helping your kids. I grew up in a place where I was seen as a product of poor parenting and was told I belong in a reject bin. I got to where I am today with little help, But that's society for you. stuff happens you move on.


Now on the topic of the car thing, I think it's being in the wrong place at the wrong time, because if I recall and I watch the forums often, they were, they like veterans haters hellafail etc. Were flaming people who(is the SCION must die mob) wanted to jack up the price with their wants and not pay for it. and you appeared to try to be a resonable voice but well you know what happened.

Those people out weight the people that will pay for it such as yourself, unfortunately that puts you into the small percentage, but I wouldn't feel bad I think your with the good crowd. That's how I see it at least.

as for the Scion must die mob well.. they're still going at it in the forum above. Tuff I say

[Yenadar]

My perspective on price has little to do with the actual financial strength of a given person, and more around the motivation people will have.

On Limited vs Premium, i'd be getting a Premium. There are some nice things in the limited, but I simply don't want leather again, unless it had heated seats, and I don't need that in a second RWD sports car

I might change my mind if I found there were Premium owners wanting to swap interiors for leather.

[3scapist]

I notice a lot of people listing push button start as one of the reasons for getting the BRZ...Call me old fashion but what the hell is wrong with turning a damn key?

[ryun84]

Originally Posted by 3scapist

I notice a lot of people listing push button start as one of the reasons for getting the BRZ...Call me old fashion but what the hell is wrong with turning a damn key?

[sarcasm] Because push-button start = racecar! [/sarcasm]

For me, I find the whole push-button start thing useless unless the system allows me to simply leave my keys in my pocket and start the car with the button when in proximity. Otherwise, what's the point? Why go through 80% of the motion by pulling out your keys, putting it in the ignition, turning the key, and THEN stop to push a button elsewhere...?

[CLTBRZ]

Originally Posted by Zaku

Well I did only specify "ONE" meaning they're only a Hypothetical One, One kid. Don't mean to offend no one mate or lump a mass if I did that I would probrably worded it differently,In this case I only mean One kid. It was a hypothetical for fun and giggles.

Sorry If I made anyone feel bad.

It's NP I just see a lot of "parents who buy their children nice things because it is within their means, means their children are immature spoiled brats" and I hope people understand that not all well-off children are spoiled or immature.

I got my first car at 16 after working from age 14 1/2 to 16 and saving everything I earned, paying for it with my own money (a 1992 subaru legacy). When I graduated, my parents bought me a brand new car as a reward for graduating at the top of my class and being accepted to a top 10 school (2002 Subaru WRX).

I know plenty of wealthy people who do not teach their children the value of money, but there are some of us that understand that money doesn't grow on trees and respect that fact.

On topic though, I like the idea of a car that's lightweight, fun to drive, and has the amenities that I am used to with my DD which is why I am interested in the BRZ Limited - I would've bought a Miata years ago if the looks (or a convertible) appealed to me at all - but I don't have any interest in dropping $50k+ on a "for fun" car.

[dalli]

Originally Posted by 3scapist

I notice a lot of people listing push button start as one of the reasons for getting the BRZ...Call me old fashion but what the hell is wrong with turning a damn key?

... and whats wrong with pushing a button?