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Old 05-12-2013, 07:14 AM   #29
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Why not go with a surge tank setup with an external pump? Just for the extra flow?
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Why not go with a surge tank setup with an external pump? Just for the extra flow?
Because that doesn't fix the fuel flow issue inside the tank!

A surge tank setups take up room, smells and is pretty loud.

Basically anyone just popping on a surge tank really hasn't taken a look at the real issue with the fuel system.

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Old 05-12-2013, 10:41 AM   #31
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ah whoops I misread, thought it meant he could maintain 550rwhp on 255's. Nevermind lol

You can backpedal well enough in 2nd and maintain forward movement. Once you get the hang of it its easy. 3rd usually sticks as long as you get the momentum right.
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Why not go with a surge tank setup with an external pump? Just for the extra flow?

The first thing we had was a surge tank. Unfortunately that doesn't work well.

The factory tank has a crossover pulsation siphon system. The larger flow pump throws that system off. That is primarily one of the reasons people are seeing a starvation problem in corners.

The surgetank relies on the primary system to fulfill its requirements. If the primary system doesn't keep up, your surge system falls off.

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2 Pumps in a surge tank for High HP Systems. Requires a 2 Pump lift system to provide an adequate amount of fuel flow over a duration of time. You either need to have a large surge tank, or have enough flow to keep up with the demands of your consumption.

Ok so now we've got 4 pumps in the system. All of them are relatively expensive. We've got an additional enclosure full of gas to kill you in an accident and just another place to leak. Ok Great!


So now lets say you have a 1/2 tank of gas and your considerably below the hump in the primary tank. The pulsation pump will not keep the primary side of tank at an adequate level with the two pumps to keep up the flow to fill the surge tank.

So what do you end up with here. We end up w/ a system that costs considerably to much. Can't run very low, possibly a fire hazard and has flow issues under cornering.
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if this can hold 3 044s I would buy it today.
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if this can hold 3 044s I would buy it today.
Why do you need 3 044s?
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The first thing we had was a surge tank. Unfortunately that doesn't work well.

The factory tank has a crossover pulsation siphon system. The larger flow pump throws that system off. That is primarily one of the reasons people are seeing a starvation problem in corners.

The surgetank relies on the primary system to fulfill its requirements. If the primary system doesn't keep up, your surge system falls off.

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2 Pumps in a surge tank for High HP Systems. Requires a 2 Pump lift system to provide an adequate amount of fuel flow over a duration of time. You either need to have a large surge tank, or have enough flow to keep up with the demands of your consumption.

Ok so now we've got 4 pumps in the system. All of them are relatively expensive. We've got an additional enclosure full of gas to kill you in an accident and just another place to leak. Ok Great!


So now lets say you have a 1/2 tank of gas and your considerably below the hump in the primary tank. The pulsation pump will not keep the primary side of tank at an adequate level with the two pumps to keep up the flow to fill the surge tank.

So what do you end up with here. We end up w/ a system that costs considerably to much. Can't run very low, possibly a fire hazard and has flow issues under cornering.
This, I understand. Thank you for taking the time.
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Why do you need 3 044s?
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i use to have an 044 on my past project, way too loud, i would never do it again
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How are these pumps hooked up? I'm assuming one is going from the drivers side to either the other two pumps or to the front as well?
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*sigh* gonna hold-off going FI...
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We were able to maintain 500-550whp on 93 octane.
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How are these pumps hooked up? I'm assuming one is going from the drivers side to either the other two pumps or to the front as well?
There are 3 pumps not 2. 2 Supply fuel demand and the other is "Magic"
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There are 3 pumps not 2. 2 Supply fuel demand and the other is "Magic"
any idea when will the build be revealed or at least more information ?
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