Borla UEL Header, Full Catless exhaust, Stock Midpipe, Berk Muffler Delete

[evilconcarne999]

Originally Posted by AlvinT@Borla

Borla UEL Header, Full Catless exhaust, Stock Midpipe, Berk Muffler Delete..

Pics of your exhaust system? Thanks for posting.

i honestly dont have any on hand, never took any while i was putting the pieces on

[SP86]

Borla FTW.! I run one on my Starion love it.

[NickFRS]

All i gotta say is all the noise and none of the speed.

[m.wood0213]

Dear god thats loud, but scary if I watched this vid and didnt know what it was. sounds like a mix of an uncapped wrx and a 2JZ supra. I like but would hate to have for my DD.

[evilconcarne999]

Originally Posted by NickFRS

All i gotta say is all the noise and none of the speed.

Well of course I wasnt wringing the engine full boar just enough to capture sound clips. Its not FI fast obviously and we all know the car isnt stupid fast but for what I have done to my car its a night and day difference from stock. I do plan on adding a FI down the road which will fill the void.

[Ch3cho86]

Originally Posted by evilconcarne999

Well of course I wasnt wringing the engine full boar just enough to capture sound clips. Its not FI fast obviously and we all know the car isnt stupid fast but for what I have done to my car its a night and day difference from stock. I do plan on adding a FI down the road which will fill the void.

The fr-s sound that strong because cell phone microphone that records the audio with a lot of distortion.
Look at my video recorded with my galaxy S3. I have stock catted exhaust manifold and it sound extremely high due to mic. recording quality
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[evilconcarne999]

Originally Posted by Ch3cho86

The fr-s sound that strong because cell phone microphone that records the audio with a lot of distortion.
Look at my video recorded with my galaxy S3. I have stock catted exhaust manifold and it sound extremely high due to mic. recording quality

Yeah but ill take some distortions vice paying hundreds for a gopro.

[justintime69]

Love the way it sounds. Im planning on a borla uel, perrin overpipe, invidia n1 t1 exhaust with invidia catless front pipe, go fast pulleys, and AMR cold intake next month. Just wondering since u have no cat now, are u getting a check eng light. Im trying to avoid programming if possible.

[DJCarbine]

Sounds great!

I've got a Borla UEL, Agency over/midpipe, and an invidia N1.... it isn't quite as loud as yours, but pretty close

The exhaust note is great with the UEL, doesn't sound like a fart cannon at all.

[Superhatch]

In addition to contributing to the formation of ground-level ozone, and fine particle pollution, NO2 is linked with a number of adverse effects on the respiratory system.

You're now not stopping any of that. If you're running a catless DD I think that's a pretty **** move, especially considering that even a high flow cat is going to stop a large majority of the stuff you're now just letting escape into your neighborhood.

http://www.importtuner.com/features/...l/viewall.html

Import tuner did dyno tests on a 1999 Si (1.6L B16) and the short version is thit:

I/H/E, OEM cat: 147 hp
I/H/E, Magnaflow Ceramic Cat: 150 hp
I/H/E, Magnaflow Metallic Cat: 151 hp
I/H/E, Test Pipe : 152 hp.

So, MAYBE, you are making 2hp at the very most. It's not worth spewing raw emissions into the atmosphere for an unnoticeable gain.

[evilconcarne999]

Originally Posted by Superhatch

You're now not stopping any of that. If you're running a catless DD I think that's a pretty **** move, especially considering that even a high flow cat is going to stop a large majority of the stuff you're now just letting escape into your neighborhood.

http://www.importtuner.com/features/...l/viewall.html

Import tuner did dyno tests on a 1999 Si (1.6L B16) and the short version is thit:

I/H/E, OEM cat: 147 hp
I/H/E, Magnaflow Ceramic Cat: 150 hp
I/H/E, Magnaflow Metallic Cat: 151 hp
I/H/E, Test Pipe : 152 hp.

So, MAYBE, you are making 2hp at the very most. It's not worth spewing raw emissions into the atmosphere for an unnoticeable gain.

i can attest to the fact it is more than a 2hp gain for everything i have done to the exhaust system. does it stop anything from getting filtered? no it doesnt and i understand that. now take in consideration my daily driver outside of my work is my wifes car which i drive way more than my FR-S so outside of work my FR-S doesnt see much street time other than traveling to and from the track or few other places. if there is a concern for polution so be it i understand your argument, but this is a thread to let people hear the sound of the exhaust not to get into arguments and pissing contests over other facts that can be talked about on other threads.

[justintime69]

Originally Posted by DJCarbine

Sounds great!

I've got a Borla UEL, Agency over/midpipe, and an invidia N1.... it isn't quite as loud as yours, but pretty close

The exhaust note is great with the UEL, doesn't sound like a fart cannon at all.

Are u getting a CEL with the set up or does the agency have a cat on it or is it a resinator

[DJCarbine]

Originally Posted by justintime69

Are u getting a CEL with the set up or does the agency have a cat on it or is it a resinator

It has a resonator, and I am running a tune so there is no CEL

[Superhatch]

Originally Posted by evilconcarne999

i can attest to the fact it is more than a 2hp gain for everything i have done to the exhaust system. does it stop anything from getting filtered? no it doesnt and i understand that. now take in consideration my daily driver outside of my work is my wifes car which i drive way more than my FR-S so outside of work my FR-S doesnt see much street time other than traveling to and from the track or few other places. if there is a concern for polution so be it i understand your argument, but this is a thread to let people hear the sound of the exhaust not to get into arguments and pissing contests over other facts that can be talked about on other threads.

All of your changes made a significant difference I'm sure, but a high flow vs. no cat is going to be unnoticeable especially considering all of the other things you did.

I'm glad you don't DD this, but I think the point about how terrible it is for the environment to run cattless had to be made in these threads. This isn't a pissing match, facts are facts, I'm just here to state them. :happy0180: