How to check for excessive silicone sealant??? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

max20s14 · 01-11-2018, 03:08 PM

My 14' car is approaching the end of the power train warranty with 50k miles.. Reading through here gets me paranoid from hearing about peoples oil galleries getting clogged with excessive silicone sometimes causing problems with cam gears and in some cases starved bearings.. I've done an oil analysis with blackstone labs and silicon level showed average.

Is there a way to check without tearing down the engine?

Are there preliminary signs like: low oil pressure ect, oil analysis with high silicon?

Ideas on preventing serious damage? like install oil pressure gauge ect..?

Is the primary source of the excessive sealant just the front cover or has anyone found it to be in other places?

If anyone that had a sealant related oil problem wants to share their experience here that would be ideal.

But maybe I am just too paranoid

humfrz · 01-11-2018, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by max20s14

My 14' car is approaching the end of the power train warranty with 50k miles.........

But maybe I am just too paranoid

I suggest you just not worry about it ....... you have a better chance of getting hit by an impaired/distracted driver.

humfrz

Grady · 01-11-2018, 04:40 PM

The only way to know is to take your engine apart and inspect. However once you put your engine back together you should recheck in 100 miles.

strat61caster · 01-11-2018, 04:46 PM

unless you're suddenly going to start tracking and before it was a DD that never revved past 3.5k rpm, it's survived this long, no reason for it to not keep on trucking for tens of thousands more miles

Tcoat · 01-11-2018, 05:05 PM

Don't panic! The number of them with issues is actually very very low. You just hear about them. As said if still going odds are you will be fine. Even the 13s that have a much higher stated failure rate probably represent something under 2% of all the cars. Taking the engine apart to inspect it could cause issues of it's own so best to leave it alone. If it does happen it will be sudden and a gauge isn't going to help.
Just keep in mind that these horror stories are a tiny minority.

Mr.ac · 01-11-2018, 11:19 PM

If your worried about it sell it.
Buy a civic.
Problem solved.

Ultramaroon · 01-11-2018, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by max20s14

But maybe I am just too paranoid

It sucks. I think about it all the time but short of preemptively tearing down the engine to inspect and clean, there's not a damn thing we can do.

I just passed through 40K with my 13.

gravitylover · 01-11-2018, 11:47 PM

93k and haven't experienced that problem yet. Don't worry about it, just drive it.

humfrz · 01-12-2018, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac

If your worried about it sell it.
Buy a civic.
Problem solved.

So, Mr .ac ...... how are your civic sales going ...... ??

humfrz

Mr.ac · 01-12-2018, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz

So, Mr .ac ...... how are your civic sales going ...... ??

humfrz

Not that good. Maybe I should rethink my lame car puns. I'm thinking about earl '90's 240's. Most of those are douche bags fan boys. Or Prius & Volt cars. Not sure which one insults more.

Ultramaroon · 01-12-2018, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac

Not that good. Maybe I should rethink my lame car puns. I'm thinking about earl '90's 240's. Most of those are douche bags fan boys. Or Prius & Volt cars. Not sure which one insults more.

Mustang?

Mr.ac · 01-12-2018, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Mustang?

Ah. Yes. Another good one.

Ultramaroon · 01-12-2018, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac

Ah. Yes. Another good one.

Am I going to have to go change all the tags?

01-11-2018, 03:08 PM	#1
max20s14 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Drives: 14' Raven M/T - 02' is300 Location: alabama Posts: 161 Thanks: 45 Thanked 28 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How to check for excessive silicone sealant??? My 14' car is approaching the end of the power train warranty with 50k miles.. Reading through here gets me paranoid from hearing about peoples oil galleries getting clogged with excessive silicone sometimes causing problems with cam gears and in some cases starved bearings.. I've done an oil analysis with blackstone labs and silicon level showed average. Is there a way to check without tearing down the engine? Are there preliminary signs like: low oil pressure ect, oil analysis with high silicon? Ideas on preventing serious damage? like install oil pressure gauge ect..? Is the primary source of the excessive sealant just the front cover or has anyone found it to be in other places? If anyone that had a sealant related oil problem wants to share their experience here that would be ideal. But maybe I am just too paranoid

01-11-2018, 05:05 PM	#5
Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,841 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,295 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2499 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	Don't panic! The number of them with issues is actually very very low. You just hear about them. As said if still going odds are you will be fine. Even the 13s that have a much higher stated failure rate probably represent something under 2% of all the cars. Taking the engine apart to inspect it could cause issues of it's own so best to leave it alone. If it does happen it will be sudden and a gauge isn't going to help. Just keep in mind that these horror stories are a tiny minority. __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.

01-11-2018, 11:19 PM	#6
Mr.ac [insert cool phrase here] Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: BRZ Premium Location: Central Coast CA Posts: 2,368 Thanks: 709 Thanked 1,559 Times in 930 Posts Mentioned: 30 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If your worried about it sell it. Buy a civic. Problem solved. __________________ New daily driver - Subaru BRZ Premium Weekend fun/track car - '91 MR2 Turbo Gen3 Old daily driver - '88 MR2 Supercharged Last edited by Mr.ac; 01-11-2018 at 11:56 PM.

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gravitylover Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Drives: 2013 BRZ Premium 6MT White Location: SE NY Posts: 1,503 Thanks: 1,218 Thanked 669 Times in 474 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	93k and haven't experienced that problem yet. Don't worry about it, just drive it. __________________

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