2014 86CUP presented by Winmax, rules and schedule

[retrosmiths]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Did you read the points on the first page? Street tires are zero or negative points, depending on your treadwear rating.

You'll be competing in stock class.

-alex

I did, I just didn't know if these tires are street or whatnot.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by retrosmiths

I did, I just didn't know if these tires are street or whatnot.

Treadwear rating determines the points assigned.

-alex

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by retrosmiths

The only mod I have in the car are the tires, Michelin Pilot Super Sports 215/45/17 on stock rims. I wonder how many points will I get from these and if it will bump me up a class level?

PSS are 300TW, so you're actually at -1 (negative one) points. You'd be in the stock class.

[retrosmiths]

Proposed schedule: Best 9 of 12 events count

01/18/2014 Streets of Willow CW Saturday
02/16/2014 Big Willow Sunday
02/22/2014 Buttonwillow Raceway 13CW Saturday
04/04/2014 Chuckwalla Raceway CW Saturday
05/11/2014 Streets of Willow CCW Sunday
06/22/2014 Big Willow Sunday
07/26/2014 Streets of Willow (Twilight) CCW saturday
08/31/2014 Buttonwillow Raceway 13 CWSunday
09/20/2014 Autoclub Speedway (Infield Road Course) Saturday (SubieFest)
10/26/2014 Chuckwalla Raceway CCW Sunday
11/22/2014 Autoclub Speedway (Roval) Saturday
12/13/2014 Streets of Willow CW Saturday

SoWS CW x2
SoWS CCW x2
WSIR x2
BW 13CW x2
CVR CW x1
CVR CCW x1
ACS Infield X1
ACS Roval x1

Scoring:

1st - 10 points
2nd - 7 points
3rd - 5 points
4th - 4 points
5th - 3 points
6th - 2 points
7th+ - 1 point

Does this mean we have to participate in at least 9 of these 12 events, and if we did more than 9, you'll only count the top 9?

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by retrosmiths

Does this mean we have to participate in at least 9 of these 12 events, and if we did more than 9, you'll only count the top 9?

Correct, top 9 placing out of 12 events.

[ImperiousRex]

Originally Posted by retrosmiths

Does this mean we have to participate in at least 9 of these 12 events, and if we did more than 9, you'll only count the top 9?

You don't *have* to participate in 9 events - but we are counting 9 events worth of points towards the overall season total. And if you make it to more than 9 events, then we are only counting your 9 best finishes in any one class.

If you mod your car mid season and it bumps you up a class, your points do not carry over and essentially you would be starting over in the new class. But this does mean you could finish top 3 in multiple classes.

Also on a sidenote - if any of you are planning on showing up for the 86 Cup tomorrow, when you pick up your transponder for timing purposes (and you should, they're free!) make sure you tell the timing guy that you'll be running in the 86Cup and which class you're going to be in. This will ensure your times are parsed for the Cup and it will help make the final tallys for the day move more smoothly! If you have any questions regarding which class you'll be in, feel free to find me, @CSG Mike or @mav1178 and we'll get you sorted out.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by retrosmiths

Does this mean we have to participate in at least 9 of these 12 events, and if we did more than 9, you'll only count the top 9?

You can participate in as many events as you wish but only up to 9 events will count toward season standings. If you do all 12 events, only the best 9 finishes will count

[retrosmiths]

Why won't the points carry over if we switch classes?

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[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by retrosmiths

Why won't the points carry over if we switch classes?

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We don't want people gaming the system by running stock all year ad winning, and then switching to Mod, and entering the class with more points than everyone else already in the glass.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by retrosmiths

Why won't the points carry over if we switch classes?

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

We don't want people gaming the system by running stock all year ad winning, and then switching to Mod, and entering the class with more points than everyone else already in the glass.

@CSG Mike, do you think we can allow up to 2 class changes throughout the season, but the entrant has to take a 50% point penalty for all accumulated points up to that point, at each class change?

I think it's fair if someone wants to compete but changes their car up often.. we can discuss this in detail tomorrow.

-alex

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by mav1178

@CSG Mike, do you think we can allow up to 2 class changes throughout the season, but the entrant has to take a 50% point penalty for all accumulated points up to that point, at each class change?

I think it's fair if someone wants to compete but changes their car up often.. we can discuss this in detail tomorrow.

-alex

That sounds totally reasonable to me... but I'd also stipulate that you can only win a podium price in 1 class.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

That sounds totally reasonable to me... but I'd also stipulate that you can only win a podium price in 1 class.

Of course, driver only eligible for whatever podium he/she is classified as whenever he/she has completed 6 events, or 60% of race calendar has been completed. Whichever is first.

-alex

[retrosmiths]

Question: Why are the first three sessions the ones that are counted for the "fastest time of the day"?

Speaking from my beginner class experience during the 1st round of the 86CUP, the first session was a drive-around while following a lead car. Basically, we now have only 2 sessions left (out of 5) to try and achieve our best time, and it seems that that's not enough time to actually "learn" the track. In fact, I achieved my best time on the 5th/final session, but it wasn't counted in the final scores.

Can't we count sessions 2/3/4 or anything except the first one? Not complaining, just asking/suggesting.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by retrosmiths

Question: Why are the first three sessions the ones that are counted for the "fastest time of the day"?

Speaking from my beginner class experience during the 1st round of the 86CUP, the first session was a drive-around while following a lead car. Basically, we now have only 2 sessions left (out of 5) to try and achieve our best time, and it seems that that's not enough time to actually "learn" the track. In fact, I achieved my best time on the 5th/final session, but it wasn't counted in the final scores.

Can't we count sessions 2/3/4 or anything except the first one? Not complaining, just asking/suggesting.

As you get experience, and move out of the beginner group, that 1st session will turn into a normal session, instead of a lead-follow.

We do the first 3, because a lot of people like to leave around 2pm or so; we want to make sure that they still have a chance to collect any prizes they might win