100% DI Failure with Nurburgring rentals - Page 31 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

suaveflooder · 08-23-2013, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thill

It looks like cars produced from January 21st 2013 and on have the newer calibration file.

Is this based on the African "TSB?" Reason I ask is different regions will have different "tunes" so to speak for different emission requirements. If it is true that the software has been modified, there is no reason why anyone who has bough their car or brought their car into service after that date shouldn't have this update already loaded, correct? Honest question. If it truly is a software problem, the "fix" would be an update

yuicebox · 08-23-2013, 02:25 PM

So are you all saying that my car (March 2013 build date) isn't at risk for the DI problems because I have the proper calibration on my ECU?? Also is there any way I can check this to prove it??

Sorry for dumb questions if so.

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thill · 08-23-2013, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suaveflooder

Is this based on the African "TSB?" Reason I ask is different regions will have different "tunes" so to speak for different emission requirements. If it is true that the software has been modified, there is no reason why anyone who has bough their car or brought their car into service after that date shouldn't have this update already loaded, correct? Honest question. If it truly is a software problem, the "fix" would be an update

track junkie in this thread confirmed his BRZ that had a build date of Feb/13 had the updated calibration file. His car is in the States.

I think where it gets confusing is that there does not seem to be a TSB or Bulltetin (at least for Subaru) where it points to this issue that you can refer to when you work with your dealer. We just have the ZA1JA01C calibration file with this description:
Known Changes/Fixes: 1. Changes to transient spark control to resolve failing (direct) fuel injector seals caused by excessive detonation when changing gear at high engine speed (above 5200rpm).

I am not sure if that is enough information for a US service department to update your ECU without pointing to a US bulletin or TSB.

thill · 08-23-2013, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuicebox

So are you all saying that my car (March 2013 build date) isn't at risk for the DI problems because I have the proper calibration on my ECU?? Also is there any way I can check this to prove it??

Sorry for dumb questions if so.

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You should be good. But you could verify with the dealer next time you are in, they can tell you what version you have installed.

yuicebox · 08-23-2013, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thill

You should be good. But you could verify with the dealer next time you are in, they can tell you what version you have installed.

My stealership didn't even know what kind of coolant went in my car. They also literally said "we dont just have extra coolant lying around", to which I responded "must make running a service department a challenge". I just wanted them to top me off lol.

Any way to check it myself?

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suaveflooder · 08-23-2013, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thill

track junkie in this thread confirmed his BRZ that had a build date of Feb/13 had the updated calibration file. His car is in the States.

I think where it gets confusing is that there does not seem to be a TSB or Bulltetin (at least for Subaru) where it points to this issue that you can refer to when you work with your dealer. We just have the ZA1JA01C calibration file with this description:
Known Changes/Fixes: 1. Changes to transient spark control to resolve failing (direct) fuel injector seals caused by excessive detonation when changing gear at high engine speed (above 5200rpm).

I am not sure if that is enough information for a US service department to update your ECU without pointing to a US bulletin or TSB.

Good to know! Thank you! I stopped following this thread when it got crazy off topic, lol. Guess it got back on at one point.

AyJay · 08-23-2013, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thill

track junkie in this thread confirmed his BRZ that had a build date of Feb/13 had the updated calibration file. His car is in the States.

I think where it gets confusing is that there does not seem to be a TSB or Bulltetin (at least for Subaru) where it points to this issue that you can refer to when you work with your dealer. We just have the ZA1JA01C calibration file with this description:
Known Changes/Fixes: 1. Changes to transient spark control to resolve failing (direct) fuel injector seals caused by excessive detonation when changing gear at high engine speed (above 5200rpm).

I am not sure if that is enough information for a US service department to update your ECU without pointing to a US bulletin or TSB.

I have a service appt tomorrow morning with a Scion dealership where I will be asking for ZA1JA01C. I will post up if I get it or not.

thill · 08-23-2013, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuicebox

My stealership didn't even know what kind of coolant went in my car. They also literally said "we dont just have extra coolant lying around", to which I responded "must make running a service department a challenge". I just wanted them to top me off lol.

Any way to check it myself?

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I suspect you would need something like Ecutek or BRZedit.

Maybe find a different dealer that might know what they are doing?

Skyllz · 08-23-2013, 02:45 PM

Sounds like I will have fun trying to sort this out with my dealer... I picked up my car in July but I have a Nov 2012 build date.

track junkie · 08-23-2013, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyJay

I have a service appt tomorrow morning with a Scion dealership where I will be asking for ZA1JA01C. I will post up if I get it or not.

Ask the dealer to please update the ecu calibration/software file and provide a printout for confirmation.

suaveflooder · 08-23-2013, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyJay

I have a service appt tomorrow morning with a Scion dealership where I will be asking for ZA1JA01C. I will post up if I get it or not.

I'm here right now. Cross fingers. We'll see if this happens

ZionsWrath · 08-23-2013, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suaveflooder

I'm here right now. Cross fingers. We'll see if this happens

Post if they tell you or not I'm hoping to have a dealer appointment for a few warranty issues soon and want to ask for them to tell me what I'm running in the ECU since I have a first shipment BRZ.

thill · 08-23-2013, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suaveflooder

I'm here right now. Cross fingers. We'll see if this happens

Good luck man. Maybe bribe them with a frosty cold beverage??

suaveflooder · 08-23-2013, 04:05 PM

Okay, here's what I have so far. The update exists, but my car does not fall into the vin range, so they won't do it.

I asked her to
1. Get me the vin range info (see if it's different than the South African range)
2. Find out of the car already HAS the update on it
3. If it does not, how much will it cost to have the update loaded. She said she CAN upload it of it is not on the car, but since there is no TSB for it, I would be charged.

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08-23-2013, 02:25 PM	#422
yuicebox Banned Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: Asphalt FRS Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 217 Thanks: 171 Thanked 145 Times in 71 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So are you all saying that my car (March 2013 build date) isn't at risk for the DI problems because I have the proper calibration on my ECU?? Also is there any way I can check this to prove it?? Sorry for dumb questions if so. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 4

08-23-2013, 02:45 PM	#429
Skyllz Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: Something fun. Location: Canada Posts: 106 Thanks: 39 Thanked 54 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sounds like I will have fun trying to sort this out with my dealer... I picked up my car in July but I have a Nov 2012 build date.

08-23-2013, 04:05 PM	#434
suaveflooder Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: San Diego Posts: 2,295 Thanks: 2,708 Thanked 1,052 Times in 664 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Okay, here's what I have so far. The update exists, but my car does not fall into the vin range, so they won't do it. I asked her to 1. Get me the vin range info (see if it's different than the South African range) 2. Find out of the car already HAS the update on it 3. If it does not, how much will it cost to have the update loaded. She said she CAN upload it of it is not on the car, but since there is no TSB for it, I would be charged.

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