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Old 08-02-2013, 05:36 AM   #1
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has anyone successfully converted to a cable-throttle yet? i switched from a 03 wrx to the brz for many reasons, one of the reasons being better throttle response.. but boy was I wrong.. I really really miss the throttle cable feel vs the drive-by-wire that the brz has. i mean, the FA engine is far superior than that of the EJ, but the throttle response is killing it for me. looks like the only remedy is a lighter flywheel at the moment... maybe a good tune would help.. I would cough up a large amount of money to get a throttle cable on my car.. really... it's a shame because I love the chassis and the balance of the car so much.. even the electric steering isnt all that bad in my books; but the lack of response in the throttle.. that is a problem. who would`ve thought the turbo awd sedan has better feel because of the cable..
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Just get a tune. Throttle by wire has a delay built in to the maps for emission purposes, the tunes all remove that in favor of better feel.
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a lighter flywheel doesn't help much. still feels like the first 1/4 of the pedal travel is 'dead'. you need to reprogram the ecu to create a more linear throttle.
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Old 08-02-2013, 11:58 AM   #4
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There's a difference between throttle response and how linear the pedal is... throttle response is how the engine reacts to pedal input anywhere in the travel.

Anywhere off idle the response is great, the engine reacts very quick to throttle modulation at part throttle. The only time it's really sluggish is from idle.
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Try the AVO DBW Throttle Controller
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYijoYmeZXU"]AVO DBW throttle controller setup - YouTube[/ame]
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will look into this. thank you.
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There's a difference between throttle response and how linear the pedal is... throttle response is how the engine reacts to pedal input anywhere in the travel.

Anywhere off idle the response is great, the engine reacts very quick to throttle modulation at part throttle. The only time it's really sluggish is from idle.
yea i agree.. I mean the FA20 being a square motor, it's extremely smooth and pulls nicely toward the redline.. it's just that it hangs on the revs and doesnt respond quickly from idle. but yea, a tune is a must.. I just keep waiting on Accessport to come out with something because that's just what I`ve been using all the time on my WRX.
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looks like I may have found my remedy. thank you guys. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16200
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looks like I may have found my remedy. thank you guys. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16200
Let us know if this works. The dead-spot in the first 5-10% of pedal travel is annoying.
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Just get a tune. Throttle by wire has a delay built in to the maps for emission purposes, the tunes all remove that in favor of better feel.
Heard several people like the throttle controller. A tune cleared up all of the throttle response issues I was having though, fwiw.
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Heard several people like the throttle controller. A tune cleared up all of the throttle response issues I was having though, fwiw.
Yeah but at the end of the day, nothing feels like a throttle cable.
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Yeah but at the end of the day, nothing feels like a throttle cable.
Until it snaps lol. But I hear you.
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Yeah but at the end of the day, nothing feels like a throttle cable.
hopefully the throttle controller will help out. I try to embrace new technology.. maybe the most sensitive setting may make it even sharper than the cable setting or just as sharp...
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Until it snaps lol. But I hear you.
Never had one snap, but the tension does need to be adjusted every so often. Of course having IACVs also sucks and DBW throttles are better in that respect. I just don't think electronics can give you the feeling of a mechanical link, yet.
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