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Vino · 09-12-2012, 07:07 PM

Like the title said i need advise to make a decision.
Do u think its worth going to a small claim court just get what your dealer promise you and sign in the paper works, its about a back up camera it comes with my frs when i bought the car the financed guy who sold us the accessory told and explained to us where getting a camera with a rear view mirror monitor, now they just want to do the monitor on top of the dashboard because they said they didnt charge that Im just thinking because they break their promise and after 2 mos calling them about the monitor I just want them to refund the total value of the accessories that I payed for, its that possible
Hope you could give me an advice should i just get their offer or continue file a claim to small court for a refund for the accessories, for not being dishonest
Thanks

empower-auto · 09-12-2012, 07:09 PM

That was hard to read.

Vino · 09-12-2012, 07:13 PM

My question is, possible file a refund in a small claim court for all the accessories that i paid and its not yet installed in the car because of being dishonest dealer

steeloyangster · 09-12-2012, 07:14 PM

Unless it was in writing I don't think you should push for it. Just take what you can get. Sales people and managers often at times don't know what is able to be done at their dealership. They will BS you until you buy, then if the issue comes up they will try to compensate you in another way.

Did you get a "WE OWE YOU" or anything with the delivery of your vehicle?

finch1750 · 09-12-2012, 07:24 PM

You can try based upon a verbal contract. The statute of limitations is just shorter than a written one. You need to send them a demand letter though before suing. Probably would get what you wanted after the purchase though as most cases get a court date 2 months out or so and then they have 30 days to comply

whaap · 09-12-2012, 07:26 PM

I'm not sure what happened. If you have something in writing I would say yes. If not, take what you can get.

FRSowner · 09-12-2012, 07:26 PM

You've come to the right place.
I know that whenever I need legal advice, I log into the first automotive forum I can find.

Vino · 09-12-2012, 07:40 PM

Thanks for the reply

Before that happened upon scheduling the installation they said it doesnt come with a back up camera which in the paper works it said back up sensor/camera and also the finances guy explain where the monitor will show in the rear view mirror which it didnt say in the paper works

Tanuki · 09-12-2012, 07:44 PM

i hAs is ContrAct is QueSTun abut is ReArview MirroW?

Vino · 09-12-2012, 07:44 PM

So should i continue to file a claim for the accessory not only the back camera issue but for the whole value of the accessories that they charge me for lying to me and giving me a headache for 2 mos calling them on whats gonna happened or just take what they offer a monitor on top of the dash

LSxJunkie · 09-12-2012, 07:47 PM

Wait, so you ordered an FR-S with a dealer added reverse camera which was supposed to have been installed before pickup?

And you have already taken delivery of the car, and they did not install the part?

And now you want the price of ALL accessories refunded, including the ones you may have received?

Is the rear view camera written on your sales contract or do you have any paperwork proving that you paid for a rear view camera and other accessories?

Did you buy any other dealer accessories that either were or were not installed?

whaap · 09-12-2012, 07:59 PM

Most lawyers allow your first visit (consultation) free. Take what paperwork you have, go to a near by lawyer and ask him.

Vino · 09-12-2012, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

1.Wait, so you ordered an FR-S with a dealer added reverse camera which was supposed to have been installed before pickup?

2. And you have already taken delivery of the car, and they did not install the part?

3.And now you want the price of ALL accessories refunded, including the ones you may have received?

4.Is the rear view camera written on your sales contract or do you have any paperwork proving that you paid for a rear view camera and other
accessories?

5. Did you buy any other dealer accessories that either were or were not installed?

1.Yes, but none of them was installed they told me that i need to bring back the car to schedule the installation

2.Yes

3.Yes

4. Yes, the way it was written is like this: "back up sensor/camera"
The rear view mirror monitor only explain to us by the financed manger because i asked him where they gonna put the monitor

5. Yes

I hope that helps

FirestormFRS · 09-12-2012, 09:35 PM

Kinda sad that you guys can't see he english isn't his native language, grow up.

Yeah take what you have to a lawyer and see what he says.

09-12-2012, 07:07 PM	#1
Vino 3stars & a sun Join Date: May 2012 Drives: FRS Location: Cali Posts: 280 Thanks: 26 Thanked 49 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Legal guru I need an advise Like the title said i need advise to make a decision. Do u think its worth going to a small claim court just get what your dealer promise you and sign in the paper works, its about a back up camera it comes with my frs when i bought the car the financed guy who sold us the accessory told and explained to us where getting a camera with a rear view mirror monitor, now they just want to do the monitor on top of the dashboard because they said they didnt charge that Im just thinking because they break their promise and after 2 mos calling them about the monitor I just want them to refund the total value of the accessories that I payed for, its that possible Hope you could give me an advice should i just get their offer or continue file a claim to small court for a refund for the accessories, for not being dishonest Thanks

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Vino 3stars & a sun Join Date: May 2012 Drives: FRS Location: Cali Posts: 280 Thanks: 26 Thanked 49 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	My question is, possible file a refund in a small claim court for all the accessories that i paid and its not yet installed in the car because of being dishonest dealer

09-12-2012, 07:26 PM	#6
whaap Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Drives: '13 FR-S firestorm, 6 mt - '11 CR-V Location: Tucson Posts: 2,133 Thanks: 243 Thanked 1,387 Times in 657 Posts Mentioned: 36 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm not sure what happened. If you have something in writing I would say yes. If not, take what you can get.

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FRSowner Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Hot Lava A/T Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 123 Thanks: 13 Thanked 209 Times in 56 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You've come to the right place. I know that whenever I need legal advice, I log into the first automotive forum I can find.

09-12-2012, 07:40 PM	#8
Vino 3stars & a sun Join Date: May 2012 Drives: FRS Location: Cali Posts: 280 Thanks: 26 Thanked 49 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Thanks for the reply Before that happened upon scheduling the installation they said it doesnt come with a back up camera which in the paper works it said back up sensor/camera and also the finances guy explain where the monitor will show in the rear view mirror which it didnt say in the paper works

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09-12-2012, 07:47 PM	#11
LSxJunkie Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Car Location: Here Posts: 326 Thanks: 283 Thanked 403 Times in 214 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Wait, so you ordered an FR-S with a dealer added reverse camera which was supposed to have been installed before pickup? And you have already taken delivery of the car, and they did not install the part? And now you want the price of ALL accessories refunded, including the ones you may have received? Is the rear view camera written on your sales contract or do you have any paperwork proving that you paid for a rear view camera and other accessories? Did you buy any other dealer accessories that either were or were not installed?

09-12-2012, 07:59 PM	#12
whaap Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Drives: '13 FR-S firestorm, 6 mt - '11 CR-V Location: Tucson Posts: 2,133 Thanks: 243 Thanked 1,387 Times in 657 Posts Mentioned: 36 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Most lawyers allow your first visit (consultation) free. Take what paperwork you have, go to a near by lawyer and ask him.

09-12-2012, 09:35 PM	#14
FirestormFRS Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Anytown Posts: 920 Thanks: 73 Thanked 643 Times in 302 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Kinda sad that you guys can't see he english isn't his native language, grow up. Yeah take what you have to a lawyer and see what he says.

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