MAF sensor substitute - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

mrg666 · 09-07-2018, 04:58 PM

I have replaced my MAF sensor with Denso 197-6160 which can be found for less than $100 instead of stock sensor (22680AA400). The substitute is working great, fits and looks exactly the same. If it works with my FI engine, it should work with any stock engine as well. Denso 197-6160 is more widely available since it is shared by many Toyota models including Corolla. I bought mine from Amazon for $80. FYI ...

Mykii · 12-26-2024, 06:30 AM

Ooh, this is interesting.

I'll have to check it out.

Somehow, my car ended up with a 197-0613 from an Impreza/WRX/Crosstrek.

I'm sure the MAF Scaling is different with this sensor compared to the stock one. I wonder if the Corolla one would have a small adjustment in scaling too.

I just ordered the Toyota part from the dealership to hopefully fix some shizzle in my car, but now i'm curious about this part number.

cmiovino · 12-26-2024, 10:55 AM

Denso makes the stock sensors, so yeah, the Denso branded part will work the exact same as long as you get the exact one as OEM.

I run the Denso version on my 2004 WRX and it's been 100% fine. People on NASIOC confirmed it was the exact same part. I'm sure it's a similar thing for the BRZ/FRS.

Mykii · 01-02-2025, 12:43 AM

I do wonder though. Between 613, 616 and the stock one, I can't tell if the car is working better or worse. I just installed the new OEM one that I got from the dealership. It definitely is dumping less fuel in. My FTLT is almost -20 now, and my FTST is like -5 and the car randomly stutters when holding closer to 3k. I'm probably going to get a revision of my tune because of this just to be safe.

I do wonder if CSG knows if theres any difference in reporting from these models they've seen.

12-26-2024, 06:30 AM	#2
Mykii Noodleking Join Date: May 2019 Drives: 2013 Firestorm FRS Location: Las Vegas Posts: 47 Thanks: 22 Thanked 13 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ooh, this is interesting. I'll have to check it out. Somehow, my car ended up with a 197-0613 from an Impreza/WRX/Crosstrek. I'm sure the MAF Scaling is different with this sensor compared to the stock one. I wonder if the Corolla one would have a small adjustment in scaling too. I just ordered the Toyota part from the dealership to hopefully fix some shizzle in my car, but now i'm curious about this part number. __________________ 2013 Firestorm FR-S, Kraftwerks C38 kit, FT-86 UEL Catted Headers, TRD D-Tip cat-back, Vibrant 1140 Resonator, Exedy Stage 1 Normal/smoother clutch that replaced the Stage 2 3-puck clutch, Exedy Lightweight flywheel, DSS carbon fiber driveshaft, TEIN springs on performance package Sachs dampers, Megan Racing Inner tie rods, 17x8 +35 Enkei Silver RPF1's, OS-Giken 1.5-way diff, J-Luth steering wheel and now a GKTech angle kit-- which rubs.

12-26-2024, 10:55 AM	#3
cmiovino Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Drives: 2017 BRZ PP, 2004 WRX Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 481 Thanks: 40 Thanked 355 Times in 218 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Denso makes the stock sensors, so yeah, the Denso branded part will work the exact same as long as you get the exact one as OEM. I run the Denso version on my 2004 WRX and it's been 100% fine. People on NASIOC confirmed it was the exact same part. I'm sure it's a similar thing for the BRZ/FRS. __________________ 2017 BRZ Limited Performance Pack - Steel Cities Region SCCA / North Hills Sports Car Club

01-02-2025, 12:43 AM	#4
Mykii Noodleking Join Date: May 2019 Drives: 2013 Firestorm FRS Location: Las Vegas Posts: 47 Thanks: 22 Thanked 13 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I do wonder though. Between 613, 616 and the stock one, I can't tell if the car is working better or worse. I just installed the new OEM one that I got from the dealership. It definitely is dumping less fuel in. My FTLT is almost -20 now, and my FTST is like -5 and the car randomly stutters when holding closer to 3k. I'm probably going to get a revision of my tune because of this just to be safe. I do wonder if CSG knows if theres any difference in reporting from these models they've seen. __________________ 2013 Firestorm FR-S, Kraftwerks C38 kit, FT-86 UEL Catted Headers, TRD D-Tip cat-back, Vibrant 1140 Resonator, Exedy Stage 1 Normal/smoother clutch that replaced the Stage 2 3-puck clutch, Exedy Lightweight flywheel, DSS carbon fiber driveshaft, TEIN springs on performance package Sachs dampers, Megan Racing Inner tie rods, 17x8 +35 Enkei Silver RPF1's, OS-Giken 1.5-way diff, J-Luth steering wheel and now a GKTech angle kit-- which rubs.

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