17x9 +42 & 245/40 w/ RCE yellow and maxed camber bolts - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

jeebus · 09-14-2013, 01:49 AM

DOES NOT FIT

I've read this fits from some, I've heard it doesn't from others, I've heard "maybe" from another camp. But for the record, it DOES NOT FIT in front, due to clearance with the front strut assembly. It is a very small amount of rub, but it is not something I would drive on. I have 3mm spacers on the way that should resolve this, but I figured I'd make a thread that is easy to find when searching.

ayau · 09-14-2013, 01:54 AM

@jeebus, I think those people were running the OEM bolts (i.e., 0 camber). Even at 0 camber, you're really close to the front spring perch. I wouldn't recommend it especially on 245 tires.

There are a couple of options.
Run spacers at the front.
Run aftermarket coilovers with smaller diameter springs/shocks.
Run less camber.
Run slimmer wheels/tires.

I have OEM crash bolts with 17x7.5 +50 wheels on 215/45/17 tires and there's rubbing under high loads.

If you're using OEM suspension with crash bolts, I'd personally use wheels with +42 or lower offset and no wider than 225 tires.

fstlane · 09-14-2013, 10:01 AM

For the record, this is how much clearance I have with op's exact setup using stock bolts.

jeebus · 09-14-2013, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayau

@jeebus, I think those people were running the OEM bolts (i.e., 0 camber). Even at 0 camber, you're really close to the front spring perch. I wouldn't recommend it especially on 245 tires.

There are a couple of options.
Run spacers at the front.
Run aftermarket coilovers with smaller diameter springs/shocks.
Run less camber.
Run slimmer wheels/tires.

I have OEM crash bolts with 17x7.5 +50 wheels on 215/45/17 tires and there's rubbing under high loads.

If you're using OEM suspension with crash bolts, I'd personally use wheels with +42 or lower offset and no wider than 225 tires.

Or ditch the camber bolts and get camber plates, since that won't change clearance at the tire.

I'm really hoping the 3mm spacers (should be here today) do the trick. Otherwise I guess I'll ditch the camber bolts and order some plates. Not really in the budget this week though...

Figo · 09-14-2013, 12:01 PM

Spacers

djdnz · 09-14-2013, 09:49 PM

Yup, I coulda told you that, my wheels are the exact same offset and width. In fact the question has been answered a few times in the will it fit thread.

jeebus · 09-14-2013, 09:51 PM

well...I did a little grinding on the spring seat and put 3mm spacers in. It "clears". Even with the bolts maxed out. It's pretty dang close though.

MPI_Jack · 09-15-2013, 01:54 PM

Any pics of how close? I want to order the same wheels you have eventually. Not interested in coilovers unless I can get super high quality ones.

jeebus · 09-15-2013, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPI_Jack

Any pics of how close? I want to order the same wheels you have eventually. Not interested in coilovers unless I can get super high quality ones.

here ya go. With the 3mm spacers and a tiny bit of grinding to the spring seat, there's about 3mm of clearance. Without the grinding, maybe 1.5mm...

Gunman · 09-15-2013, 04:05 PM

If this was a 17x8 rim, would there be more clearance? ie is the rim stretching the tire closer to the spring perch?

MPI_Jack · 09-15-2013, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeebus

here ya go. With the 3mm spacers and a tiny bit of grinding to the spring seat, there's about 3mm of clearance. Without the grinding, maybe 1.5mm...

I can def see where it would rub under hard cornering with some tire deflection. How do you like the Titan's?

jeebus · 09-16-2013, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPI_Jack

I can def see where it would rub under hard cornering with some tire deflection. How do you like the Titan's?

It might rub. I marked the tire there with some perm marker and haven't seen rub spots yet with "spirited" driving. AutoX might be a different story though. I will likely buy some camber plates and ditch the bolts so I feel more at ease.

LOVE LOVE LOVE the titans though. Light, cheap, look great IMO.

leon78 · 09-16-2013, 07:48 PM

This is new news?

I still have my 5mm spacer from my +42 setup I had.

jeebus · 09-16-2013, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leon78

This is new news?

I still have my 5mm spacer from my +42 setup I had.

It is new for tards like me.

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jeebus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2015 Mustang GT (on order) Location: San Diego Posts: 904 Thanks: 114 Thanked 471 Times in 208 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	well...I did a little grinding on the spring seat and put 3mm spacers in. It "clears". Even with the bolts maxed out. It's pretty dang close though. Attached Images __________________

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leon78 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 13 Whiteout Location: Niceville FL Posts: 666 Thanks: 307 Thanked 241 Times in 142 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	This is new news? I still have my 5mm spacer from my +42 setup I had. __________________ 2013 Scion FR-S (Whiteout) GunMetal 16x8+25 Enkei CompE_Cusco OCC_ Kartboy Crank Pulley_Kartboy TMM insert_Koni Yellows_RCE Springs_K&N Drop-In_Eibach FSB_J2 Catless FP_WhiteLine Camber Bolts_NameLess Track Pipe_RBF600_Ferodo DS2500_PTUNING Tuned. Less parking more racing

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ayau Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Some rust bucket Location: Polar ice cap Posts: 3,058 Thanks: 312 Thanked 1,046 Times in 556 Posts Mentioned: 37 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	@jeebus, I think those people were running the OEM bolts (i.e., 0 camber). Even at 0 camber, you're really close to the front spring perch. I wouldn't recommend it especially on 245 tires. There are a couple of options. Run spacers at the front. Run aftermarket coilovers with smaller diameter springs/shocks. Run less camber. Run slimmer wheels/tires. I have OEM crash bolts with 17x7.5 +50 wheels on 215/45/17 tires and there's rubbing under high loads. If you're using OEM suspension with crash bolts, I'd personally use wheels with +42 or lower offset and no wider than 225 tires.

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fstlane Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: BRZ Limited Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 289 Thanks: 742 Thanked 316 Times in 149 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	For the record, this is how much clearance I have with op's exact setup using stock bolts.

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