Light Wight Battery Question

[8686]

I noticed that our car appreciate wight saving significantly. So I was looking to save wight without sacrificing the Daily Driver reliability.
So I was looking into light wight batteries for a while now but didnt buy one because I wanted it to be installed like an OEM.

Now with PTuning new Battery Tray it triggered the search again.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46050

I was narrowing my battery options between Shurai and Full Spectrum because they offer the most wight saving.

Shurai LFX36L3-BS12 is used in the famous TRD Griffon.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...hlight=griffon

While Full Spectrum is used in the Evasive racecar
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39243

below is a small comparison between the two

Battery Cost Wight
Shurai LFX36L3-BS12 (265 usd) (5 lb) [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Shorai-LFX36L3-BS12-Extreme-Lithium-Powersports/dp/B005FIUMOG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3TGLKQSXIDD7 7&coliid=I1A002N0X7L21T"]Amazon.com: Shorai LFX36L3-BS12 Extreme Rate Lithium Iron Powersports Battery: Automotive[/ame]
Full Spectrum P3 (289 usd) (2.2 lb) http://www.fullspectrumpower.com/product/pulse-p3/

In term of more technical comparison between the two, I dont have any idea and here where I am asking for advice. What is the difference between these two? what will be better for a daily driver?

[Captain Insano]

When going smaller/lighter battery I always compare the battery prospects I'm considering to the OEM battery Cold Cranking Amps (CCA) rating as I live in a cold weather region for winters. If you don't live in the cold, you can get away with a lot smaller/lighter battery compared to somebody in a cold region.

When comparing CCA of Shurai it is very good at 549 vs OEM is 390 I think. Didn't see a CCA rating for Full Spectrum.

[8686]

The Full Spectrum have 375 cranking Amps. still close to OEM.

[kanundrum]

go with Shurai I know a lot of people using them and they rock and where are you located ? Do you have Harsh winters or super hot summers?

[8686]

all year summer


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[kanundrum]

Originally Posted by 8686

all year summer


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You should be good with the shurai the colds and the harsh summers are really what kills batteries but CCA's come into play in the winter

[8686]

Originally Posted by kanundrum

You should be good with the shurai the colds and the harsh summers are really what kills batteries but CCA's come into play in the winter

Thank you for the advice.

I was leaning toward Full Spectrum as it is lighter


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[kanundrum]

Originally Posted by 8686

Thank you for the advice.

I was leaning toward Full Spectrum as it is lighter


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shurai is prooven and tried, while personally I have never heard of full spectrum with the shurai only being 5lbs i doubt you will save much more weight. You want reliability not issues.

[Hope10Series]

Braille 21lbs, 18lbs or 15lbs should do the job. They are great batteries with 2 year warranty.

[kanundrum]

Originally Posted by Hope10Series

Braille 21lbs, 18lbs or 15lbs should do the job. They are great batteries with 2 year warranty.

Id go with oddessey or deka, braille are just rebranded those

[Mrc@ptuning]

Originally Posted by 8686

Thank you for the advice.

I was leaning toward Full Spectrum as it is lighter


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We can definitely accommodate the Pulse P3 battery on our tray per your question in our other post. Although it is probably one of the lightest LI battery capable of starting the frs/brz. The CCA and reserve capacity of the shorai LFX36L3-BS12 is more inline with what you would want for a daily driver. Now if you were using your car for a dedicated race car, I say go for the lightest battery possible like the Pulse P3 (2.2#) or ballistic Evo2 16CellHD (3.5#) or even the smaller shorai LFX27L3-BS12 (4#).

But even with the largest shorai @ 5#, you're already saving 24+ lbs over the oem battery setup...that is a huge weight savings.

MrC

[FT-86 SpeedFactory]

We have a lightweight kit as well.

Our Scion FRS and Subaru BRZ Lightweight Battery Kit will shed 19lbs of unwanted weight from your car.

Our kit replaces the stock OEM battery and tray which weights 30lbs with an 11 pound unit. The kit is designed to fit in the factory location with no drilling or cutting required. It bolts right in as per the instructions, and is perfect for SCCA STX class or a track car.

Daily driver cars can also benefit from this kit as it works well for typical daily driver duty. We had it tested for 3 months before bringing the kit to market and ran into ZERO daily driver issues.

This is a simple no nonsense kit and includes:
11LB Braille Battery
Battery Tray Anodized Black
Battery Tie Anodized Black and Laser Etched
Fasteners
Instructions

Battery Information:
This battery has great all around performance for small displacement motors. Using our AGM racing technology it has 904 PCA, more than any other battery in its weight class. Braille Battery’s Advanced AGM batteries have allowed for more power, safer design and less overall weight than the batteries they replace, as the performance leader in the 12 volt sealed AGM (lead-acid) marketplace.

Voltage: 12v
Full Charge Voltage: 13.8v
Short Circuit Current: 904
Pulse Cranking Amps (PCA): 904
Cold Cranking Amps: 360
Cranking Amps: 486
Amp Hour (AH): 15

[neurokinetik]

For comparison, the Shorai LFX36L3-BS12:

Voltage: 12V
Cold Cranking Amps: 540A (vs. stock battery: 390)
Amp Hour: 36AH (vs. stock battery: 48AH)

After the Cold Cranking Amps, the most important specification is the Amp Hour capacity. This determines how long it will take the battery to completely discharge under a given load.

Stock battery is 48AH. This means that if you had a 1A load running constantly (say you left the dome light on, and in this hypothetical situation let's say that dome light pulls 1A, for example), the battery would discharge in 48 hours. The Shorai would last 36 hours under the same conditions, and the Braille would last 15.

Not trying to crap all over FT86Speedfactory's product, but it weighs twice as much, with half the capacity, and is only $86 cheaper than the Shorai (when you exclude the mounting kit).

So all these eco-weenies driving their Priuses are actually good for something: They are driving the prices of Lithium batteries down to the point where they are almost as cheap as the older Lead Acid designs.

[jm1681]

Might sound obvious as hell after this discussion, but with the Shorai's CCA well above the stock battery, would it be a safe call running this battery through cold weather (NY winters)?