Tires on front wheel drive car - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

stugray · 12-09-2015, 02:51 PM

Question: If you have a front wheel drive car and you have one set of tires with almost no tread left, and one set with good tread: Where would you put the good tires front or back?

Put good tires on front, bad in back.

Put good tires on rear, bad in front.

Give your reasoning if you have it please

jawn · 12-09-2015, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stugray

Question: If you have a front wheel drive car and you have one set of tires with almost no tread left, and one set with good tread: Where would you put the good tires front or back?

Put good tires on front, bad in back.

Put good tires on rear, bad in front.

Give your reasoning if you have it please

I'd rather deal with oversteer in a FWD car than terminal understeer in a FWD car. Ergo, more grip in the front.

go_a_way1 · 12-09-2015, 02:58 PM

You wear out the front tires faster so you keep them on the front until they are one or two 32nds less then the rear then rotate.

ichitaka05 · 12-09-2015, 03:01 PM

Good ones on the rear

Tcoat · 12-09-2015, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jawn

I'd rather deal with oversteer in a FWD car than terminal understeer in a FWD car. Ergo, more grip in the front.

This^^^^
With the qualifier that I would rather have good tires all around if at all feasible.

PMPB · 12-09-2015, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jawn

I'd rather deal with oversteer in a FWD car than terminal understeer in a FWD car. Ergo, more grip in the front.

That's all fine and dandy unless you actually need to stop.

Toyarzee · 12-09-2015, 03:03 PM

You always want to put the better tread on your drive wheels, especially when being used to steer the vehicle. It's expected to wear through fronts faster due to the weight and braking bias, along with the fact that that's where your power is being distributed to.

jawn · 12-09-2015, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PMPB

That's all fine and dandy unless you actually need to stop.

The front brakes (and tires) are doing most of the work when you're stopping, too.

Toyarzee · 12-09-2015, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

with the qualifier that I would rather have good tires all around if at all feasible.

That too

Summerwolf · 12-09-2015, 03:05 PM

Didn't they teach to put new tires on drive wheels. In a FWD car your drive wheels are your turn wheels too. I guess I'd rather have them on the front since that's traction, braking, and steering.

Maybe not drive to the point of terminal understeer while you have bald tires on the back?

PMPB · 12-09-2015, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

This^^^^
With the qualifier that I would rather have good tires all around if at all feasible.

Seriously Tcoat? of all people, I thought you would have a reasonable answer.

I guess it depends if OP is taking the car to the track. If you're racing the FWD, the good tires on the front. If you actually need to drive it around a city, in conditions that might be bad, good tires at the back.

If the good tires are at the back, it puts a reasonable upper limit to how fast you can drive because the car will understeer like a pig if you actually try to push it. If you need to stop on snow/ice/standing water, you have a chance of at least going straight ahead, instead of crashing into everything and anything while spinning down the road. With the good tires at the front, snap over-steer will be the worst ever.

asdf · 12-09-2015, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Good ones on the rear

i'm with ichi on this... for safety, would put worn up front and more traction in rear (assuming this is your commuter car and you're not just out there trying to mess around trying to get the rear to kick out on your fwd car). more tread in the rear will help w/ traction in case of wet conditions....

mav1178 · 12-09-2015, 03:11 PM

same logic as putting chains on a FWD: on the drive wheels.

-alex

totopo · 12-09-2015, 03:17 PM

Bad tires on rear. FWD cars are much more predictable, and understeer doesn't hurt you too much unless you are a complete reckless tard. You would be suprised at how you actually can oversteer in FWD cars, especially in bad conditions and bad weather. Over steer in FWD cars is really painful and hard to control unless you are prepared for it at on a track and ready to mash the gas.

Are you at a track? why don't you have 4 good tires.

Are you on the streets? Safety is more important. If you don't like the way the car drives, then rotate your tires more.

"When tires are replaced in pairs in situations like these, the new tires should always be installed on the rear axle and the partially worn tires moved to the front. New tires on the rear axle help the driver more easily maintain control on wet roads since deeper treaded tires are better at resisting hydroplaning."
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=52

Really I am surprised some of the more mature drives who have posted still posted some boy-racer like though process.

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