Considerations for a new car addition! - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

frX50z · 10-31-2015, 08:35 PM

Hello all-

Long time lurker, but no stranger to forum etiquette and rules...

That being said I want to get opinions. I searched all of these, but want specific advice! Thanks y'all...

So I moved to Cleveland from LA, and need a new car for the winter. I've owned an Evo X, but hated it. Felt cheap and always had problems.

Are there any other awd contenders that are similar in the fun factor? I don't lik the power delivery in the 2.0t 4 series...considering a focus hatch with snow tires (I know it's fwd), but wondering if that's a dumb move.

Lastly, should I hold off and wait for a new engine design in the sti? How many more years could that possibly take...?? I disliked the normal wrx immensely but like the new engine idea with the twin scroll turbo. Just need more power and a nicer interior.

Thanks!

wireman957 · 10-31-2015, 08:48 PM

Are you sure you're on the right forum?

frX50z · 10-31-2015, 10:05 PM

Lol just asking if any other frs owners has an awd turbo car, and could share their opinions!

Tcoat · 10-31-2015, 10:12 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51303

Tcoat · 10-31-2015, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frX50z

Hello all-

Long time lurker, but no stranger to forum etiquette and rules...

That being said I want to get opinions. I searched all of these, but want specific advice! Thanks y'all...

So I moved to Cleveland from LA, and need a new car for the winter. I've owned an Evo X, but hated it. Felt cheap and always had problems. I want a new car, and was curious about your reviews on the 2016 sti. I drove one, seemed great- will keep t stock, but was curious for firsthand experience- is it faster than the stock Evo X (didn't wanna get a ticket on the test drive)? Does it just look like a wrx without the wing?

Compared to the Fr-Z, do you enjoy it more? I am keeping my fr-s, but not if people who've made similar trades say they don't miss it.

Are there any other awd contenders that are similar in the fun factor? I don't lik the power delivery in the 2.0t 4 series...considering a focus hatch with snow tires (I know it's fwd), but wondering if that's a dumb move.

I want this car to be my last one- don't want my sig getting much longer!

Lastly, should I hold off and wait for a new engine design in the sti? How many more years could that possibly take...?? I disliked the normal wrx immensely but like the new engine idea with the twin scroll turbo. Just need more power and a nicer interior.

Thanks, happy Halloween!
~Ryan

I suspect that your quest for the "perfect " car may be in vain.
If you hated the Evo I highly doubt the WRX or STi will meet your standard either.
Oh and it is the STi that has the wing so if the one you test drove didn't it was a WRX so which did you test drive?

raven1231 · 10-31-2015, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I suspect that your quest for the "perfect " car may be in vain.
If you hated the Evo I highly doubt the WRX or STi will meet your standard either.
Oh and it is the STi that has the wing so if the one you test drove didn't it was a WRX so which did you test drive?

I think he's trying to ask if you took the wing off the sti would it then just look like the wrx. If so the answer is yes. I made the switch to a new wrx and love it, that being said I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss the frs. They are both great in their own ways, but as tcoat said if you don't like the EVO x there is very little chance you will like the sti.

dem00n · 10-31-2015, 10:35 PM

Manual Chevy SS with winter tires...

Packofcrows · 11-01-2015, 01:20 AM

Dont need turbo to enjoy car. I say go older WRX awd. Rav4 awd is nice too or Venza imo.

Tcoat · 11-01-2015, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raven1231

I think he's trying to ask if you took the wing off the sti would it then just look like the wrx. .

Not really sure what he trying to say or ask as it rambles all over the place.

humdizzle · 11-01-2015, 04:25 AM

lol the post is all over the place. did someone forget their adderall this morning?

I wouldn't look twice at an STi. Go check out a new Golf R or wait for the Focus RS to arrive. The golf in particular has a very nice cabin if that matters to you.

DarkSunrise · 11-01-2015, 07:06 AM

Agree with humdizzle. If you want an upscale interior in an AWD turbo hatch, the Golf R is a pretty easy choice.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...r/viewall.html

strat61caster · 11-01-2015, 06:16 PM

How big is the budget? For upscale practical performance I'd be trying to swing a V60 Polestar BMW 3 series wagon or CTSV wagon, all come in sedans if that's preferable but are in the $40-$60k region. The $30-$40k realm is kind of sparse and already covered.

goshem · 11-01-2015, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frX50z

Hello all-

Long time lurker, but no stranger to forum etiquette and rules...

That being said I want to get opinions. I searched all of these, but want specific advice! Thanks y'all...

So I moved to Cleveland from LA, and need a new car for the winter. I've owned an Evo X, but hated it. Felt cheap and always had problems. I want a new car, and was curious about your reviews on the 2016 sti. I drove one, seemed great- will keep t stock, but was curious for firsthand experience- is it faster than the stock Evo X (didn't wanna get a ticket on the test drive)? Does it just look like a wrx without the wing?

Compared to the Fr-Z, do you enjoy it more? I am keeping my fr-s, but not if people who've made similar trades say they don't miss it.

Are there any other awd contenders that are similar in the fun factor? I don't lik the power delivery in the 2.0t 4 series...considering a focus hatch with snow tires (I know it's fwd), but wondering if that's a dumb move.

I want this car to be my last one- don't want my sig getting much longer!

Lastly, should I hold off and wait for a new engine design in the sti? How many more years could that possibly take...?? I disliked the normal wrx immensely but like the new engine idea with the twin scroll turbo. Just need more power and a nicer interior.

Thanks, happy Halloween!
~Ryan

The new 2016 WRX STi in Limited is nice. Has blindspot monitoring, heated rear view mirrors, Nav isn't total garbage anymore etc.. It also drives really nice and the interior isn't as bad as the last gen anymore.

Joakim3 · 11-02-2015, 12:28 AM

The main question you should be asking is a) it going to be new or used and and b) are you looking for boy racer or something a bit more subtle

If it has to be Turbo 4WD and 4-doors, affordable as in sub 35k? options are going to be lot less than you think:

- Focus RS (expect paying out the ass)
- Subaru WRX/STi (probably going to be your best bang for buck, but be very careful when buying a used one as 95% of them have been driven into the ground)
- Golf R/R32 (overpriced in general)
- Lancer/Evo (the cars discounted so parts are going to be had to come by but to make it worse... like the Subi's people drive them like rally cars)
- Saab 9-3 Aero XWD (discontinued, it's absurdly rare, and trust me when I say parts are going to be hell to find)
- Malibu SS if you wan't 'Murica

If you willing to push the 40k+ envelope your list starts to expand a lot

Start throwing in low end BMW's, Audit obviously and the 4-Matic Merc's be beware of zee-german maintenance lol

10-31-2015, 08:35 PM	#1
frX50z Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 2014 frs Location: Houston Posts: 25 Thanks: 5 Thanked 14 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Considerations for a new car addition! Hello all- Long time lurker, but no stranger to forum etiquette and rules... That being said I want to get opinions. I searched all of these, but want specific advice! Thanks y'all... So I moved to Cleveland from LA, and need a new car for the winter. I've owned an Evo X, but hated it. Felt cheap and always had problems. Are there any other awd contenders that are similar in the fun factor? I don't lik the power delivery in the 2.0t 4 series...considering a focus hatch with snow tires (I know it's fwd), but wondering if that's a dumb move. Lastly, should I hold off and wait for a new engine design in the sti? How many more years could that possibly take...?? I disliked the normal wrx immensely but like the new engine idea with the twin scroll turbo. Just need more power and a nicer interior. Thanks! __________________ *Silver Wrx STI* Fr-s (sold) 350z HR (sold) Evo X gsr (sold) Celica GT convertible (exploded) Last edited by frX50z; 11-02-2015 at 07:54 PM.

10-31-2015, 10:05 PM	#3
frX50z Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 2014 frs Location: Houston Posts: 25 Thanks: 5 Thanked 14 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Lol just asking if any other frs owners has an awd turbo car, and could share their opinions! __________________ *Silver Wrx STI* Fr-s (sold) 350z HR (sold) Evo X gsr (sold) Celica GT convertible (exploded)

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dem00n Member of the year - 2016 Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Scion FRS Location: New York Posts: 3,575 Thanks: 788 Thanked 2,427 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Manual Chevy SS with winter tires... __________________ Friends don't let friends Plastidip

11-01-2015, 01:20 AM	#8
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wireman957 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Drives: 2015 FR-S MT Steel Location: D/FW area Texas Posts: 466 Thanks: 1,387 Thanked 546 Times in 279 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Are you sure you're on the right forum?

11-01-2015, 04:25 AM	#10
humdizzle Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Drives: 2018 GT3 / 2015 M3 Location: Missouri Posts: 290 Thanks: 102 Thanked 316 Times in 119 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	lol the post is all over the place. did someone forget their adderall this morning? I wouldn't look twice at an STi. Go check out a new Golf R or wait for the Focus RS to arrive. The golf in particular has a very nice cabin if that matters to you. __________________ 2018 GT3 6MT 2021 M2 Comp DCT Past: 458 Italia, R35 GTR, E36/E46/F80 M3, 335i, Scion FRS

11-01-2015, 07:06 AM	#11
DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,798 Thanks: 2,187 Thanked 4,243 Times in 2,221 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Agree with humdizzle. If you want an upscale interior in an AWD turbo hatch, the Golf R is a pretty easy choice. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...r/viewall.html __________________ "Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time." 2022 BRZ Build 2013 FR-S Build

11-02-2015, 12:28 AM	#14
Joakim3 Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 04' Saab 9-5 Aero Location: Elkridge, MD Posts: 602 Thanks: 7 Thanked 199 Times in 136 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The main question you should be asking is a) it going to be new or used and and b) are you looking for boy racer or something a bit more subtle If it has to be Turbo 4WD and 4-doors, affordable as in sub 35k? options are going to be lot less than you think: - Focus RS (expect paying out the ass) - Subaru WRX/STi (probably going to be your best bang for buck, but be very careful when buying a used one as 95% of them have been driven into the ground) - Golf R/R32 (overpriced in general) - Lancer/Evo (the cars discounted so parts are going to be had to come by but to make it worse... like the Subi's people drive them like rally cars) - Saab 9-3 Aero XWD (discontinued, it's absurdly rare, and trust me when I say parts are going to be hell to find) - Malibu SS if you wan't 'Murica If you willing to push the 40k+ envelope your list starts to expand a lot Start throwing in low end BMW's, Audit obviously and the 4-Matic Merc's be beware of zee-german maintenance lol __________________ _____________________ You know what they say... pick two: cheap, fast, reliable. Last edited by Joakim3; 11-02-2015 at 12:40 AM.

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