Catted Header or Stage 1 Tune first? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Mr.Impreza · 09-04-2015, 02:52 PM

Hey everyone. So I finally decided on what i want.

A catted UEL header and a open flash tablet.

Now currently, I have a axel-back exhaust and drop in filter so i know i could do a tune and go stage 1 with the OFT.

However, I'm wondering on your experiences and opinions, should I do the tune or should i get the catted header first and then tune.

From what i read, the gains fro a stage 1 tune is 10whp?
Gains from a catted uel header is 5whp without a tune?
I see FT86 speed factory got better gains without a tune so not sure with the numbers.

I can't get both at the same time and need to space them out about 1 year. So what gains will make me more happy for that 1 year?

I've found a thread from 2013 with mixed comments, but would like to see what people are saying in 2015

DAEMANO · 09-04-2015, 03:49 PM

Tune first. The OFT will give you more than just 10 WHP. It's got a lot of features you'll want to take time to get to know before you get your header. Also your car will run better with the OFT and you can play with e85 if you have it in your area (not sure about availability in Canada).

CatDaddysBBQ · 09-04-2015, 05:18 PM

Im in the same boat as the OP and I figured the OFT was a better first thing too. Glad to hear.

malubawla · 09-04-2015, 05:22 PM

I would wait to get the header, then install it and run a stage 2 tune.

campy · 09-04-2015, 05:23 PM

I would say get the header first. It won't be a dramatic change without a tune, but it'll help even out the torque dip and generally give more power overall. Also the extra volume makes the car a bit more fun to drive.

us3less24 · 09-04-2015, 05:26 PM

What is the good tune in OFT if you have UEL HEADER?

350matt · 09-04-2015, 05:26 PM

tune without a doubt
by far the biggest bang for your buck

us3less24 · 09-04-2015, 05:28 PM

I mean which tune should I choose on OFT? I have borla UEL

malubawla · 09-04-2015, 05:30 PM

Use the stage 2 UEL that's calibrated for your ecu. I'm very happy with my setup

us3less24 · 09-04-2015, 05:31 PM

So just go straight to stage 2? I will get my OFT tomorrow

malubawla · 09-04-2015, 05:52 PM

Yeah use the stage 2 UEL tune based on your ECU calibration id

us3less24 · 09-04-2015, 05:55 PM

Thanks guys

Mr.Impreza · 09-04-2015, 06:35 PM

Awesome, thanks guy!

09-04-2015, 02:52 PM	#1
Mr.Impreza Mr.Fujitsubo Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: 2018 STI Location: Woodbridge Posts: 1,719 Thanks: 4,055 Thanked 1,552 Times in 784 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Catted Header or Stage 1 Tune first? Hey everyone. So I finally decided on what i want. A catted UEL header and a open flash tablet. Now currently, I have a axel-back exhaust and drop in filter so i know i could do a tune and go stage 1 with the OFT. However, I'm wondering on your experiences and opinions, should I do the tune or should i get the catted header first and then tune. From what i read, the gains fro a stage 1 tune is 10whp? Gains from a catted uel header is 5whp without a tune? I see FT86 speed factory got better gains without a tune so not sure with the numbers. I can't get both at the same time and need to space them out about 1 year. So what gains will make me more happy for that 1 year? I've found a thread from 2013 with mixed comments, but would like to see what people are saying in 2015 __________________ 2018 Subaru WRX STI ~ The Weekend Car ~ 2015 Toyota 86 ~ The Sold Car ~ Build Journal OFT Stage 1 Tune Review

09-04-2015, 05:22 PM	#4
malubawla poor man's evora Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: Turbod BRZ Location: Dallas Posts: 620 Thanks: 42 Thanked 190 Times in 137 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I would wait to get the header, then install it and run a stage 2 tune. __________________ my build thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77434

09-04-2015, 05:23 PM	#5
campy No rice, no life Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 Asphalt FR-S Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 1,143 Thanks: 266 Thanked 1,019 Times in 388 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I would say get the header first. It won't be a dramatic change without a tune, but it'll help even out the torque dip and generally give more power overall. Also the extra volume makes the car a bit more fun to drive. __________________ 2013 Asphalt Scion FR-S \| Jackson Racing Supercharger \| KW V3 \| Enkei RS05RR 18x9.5

09-04-2015, 05:30 PM	#9
malubawla poor man's evora Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: Turbod BRZ Location: Dallas Posts: 620 Thanks: 42 Thanked 190 Times in 137 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Use the stage 2 UEL that's calibrated for your ecu. I'm very happy with my setup __________________ my build thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77434

09-04-2015, 05:52 PM	#11
malubawla poor man's evora Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: Turbod BRZ Location: Dallas Posts: 620 Thanks: 42 Thanked 190 Times in 137 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah use the stage 2 UEL tune based on your ECU calibration id __________________ my build thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77434

09-04-2015, 05:26 PM	#6
us3less24 chris86 Join Date: May 2015 Drives: Frs 2015 Location: San diego Posts: 82 Thanks: 11 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What is the good tune in OFT if you have UEL HEADER?

09-04-2015, 05:26 PM	#7
350matt Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: toyota mr2/ Toyota GT86 Location: UK Posts: 438 Thanks: 3 Thanked 140 Times in 92 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	tune without a doubt by far the biggest bang for your buck

09-04-2015, 05:28 PM	#8
us3less24 chris86 Join Date: May 2015 Drives: Frs 2015 Location: San diego Posts: 82 Thanks: 11 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I mean which tune should I choose on OFT? I have borla UEL

09-04-2015, 05:31 PM	#10
us3less24 chris86 Join Date: May 2015 Drives: Frs 2015 Location: San diego Posts: 82 Thanks: 11 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So just go straight to stage 2? I will get my OFT tomorrow

09-04-2015, 05:55 PM	#12
us3less24 chris86 Join Date: May 2015 Drives: Frs 2015 Location: San diego Posts: 82 Thanks: 11 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks guys

09-04-2015, 06:35 PM	#13
Mr.Impreza Mr.Fujitsubo Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: 2018 STI Location: Woodbridge Posts: 1,719 Thanks: 4,055 Thanked 1,552 Times in 784 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Awesome, thanks guy! __________________ 2018 Subaru WRX STI ~ The Weekend Car ~ 2015 Toyota 86 ~ The Sold Car ~ Build Journal OFT Stage 1 Tune Review

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