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Old 02-04-2015, 02:07 PM   #1
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the frs/brz is already plenty fast.

now, if you are a regular at your local track or you spend a lot of time at the test and tune at your dragstrip this doesnt apply to you. and if you are a young carefree kid who doesn't have a career, wife or family yet i suppose this also doesn't apply to you.

but as an full fledged adult with adult things to do and family members to tend to and without time to oh, say, spend the day in jail on a reckless driving charge i can't possibly imagine how someone gets to the point where they think that the brz/frs is slow.

i've test driven both an FRS and BRZ and got to above legal speeds quite fast with both of them, thankyouverymuch. They feel just as fast/quick as my old 1995 mustang GT, which had 225 horsepower back then but probably carried an extra 500 lbs. (it also has just about the same quarter mile time and trap speed, as an aside) i managed to quickly get in front of traffic and do some things that probably were outside of the bounds of legal pretty easily.

in fact, id never call it fast but my current 100 and change horsepower honda civic has only made me feel uncomfortably slow in three merge into traffic situations over the span of five years of ownership.

so sure, a v6 camry has more horsepower! but try to use that extra horsepower in any meaningful way on a public road and odds are mister john q law will have something to say to you. not to mention that i doubt that more than a few percent of the driving populace has the driving skills necessary to even use half of the horsepower that any of their cars might have in the first place.

anyways, rant over..
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Old 02-04-2015, 02:20 PM   #2
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Cool story, bro.
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For a modern day sports car they are slow in a straight line... End of story.
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Old 02-04-2015, 02:41 PM   #4
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I agree that the twins are "fast enough" for normal daily driving. But as this is an enthusiast forum (or tuner forum if you will), you'll see plenty of the "need more powah" comments.

the 4th, and most of the 5th generation mustangs were slow in stock configuration. Even the 4th gen cobra was only turning out mid 13 1/4 mile times. (which is very fast, don't get me wrong. But today's base model pony really puts it in perspective.)
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For a modern day sports car they are slow in a straight line... End of story.

sure. when was the last time you were in a public road and used whatever 'extra' power your car or setup has over a stock brz in a straight line?
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The car is slower than a damn turtle. Lets all be honest with ourselves....It looks great, is lightweight, handles great, is a blast to drive and is slow as f*ck.
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sure. when was the last time you were in a public road and used whatever 'extra' power your car or setup has over a stock brz in a straight line?
just did a quick 40-120 pull in my 400whp Neon yesterday
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Just remember many (not all) super cars of the 1970s had 0-60 times in the 6-7 second range. It was fast then. It's still fast now.
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Just remember many super cars of the 1970s had 0-60 times in the 6-7 second range. It was fast then. It's still fast now.
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Old 02-04-2015, 03:06 PM   #10
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Lol let's hope he is....Are we in the 70's?
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Old 02-04-2015, 04:02 PM   #11
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I would call my BRZ, "Peppy" in speed.

Can it beat a six or eight cylinder Mustang (or whatever) in a straight line? Of course not - but then those cars are generally 10Gs+ more expensive.

I can easily out-accelerate (from a stop) most of the cars on the road today. And unless I'm up against a Corvette or something very high end, I can outmaneuver most anything I come across.

For the money, the BRZ is a peppy sports car that will outmaneuver most anything on the road.
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Old 02-04-2015, 04:10 PM   #12
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If you want anything close to quick... don't buy a BRZ/FRS... they are down right painfully slow. Your average sedan (Toyota / Honda) will easily outrun them. And don't even ask about torque... lol.
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Old 02-04-2015, 04:35 PM   #13
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Being 30 years old and married with a full time job.. I think I fit OP's description, and it is too damn slow. Every morning I have to merge onto a 65mph highway behind idiots that are going 45mph. The day that I can jump into that 65+ lane with 0 concern of cutting someone off is the day my BRZ will no longer be considered "slow".

Stock, it's a peppy fun little car, but it is not a fast car. I still love it no matter what.

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Can it beat a six or eight cylinder Mustang (or whatever) in a straight line? Of course not - but then those cars are generally 10Gs+ more expensive.
No they aren't.. I saw a 2014 Mustang v6 premium with 6k miles for the exact same price I paid for my 2013 BRZ Limited with 15k miles. They are very close in price.
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Old 02-04-2015, 04:59 PM   #14
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it's 0-60 is slow, but in 3rd gear it will hang with just about anything that isn't pumping at least +300 HP or you're just driving wrong. I see a lot of hate against the speed of the BRZ but I have pulled on every GT mustang up to 2003 with ease, and hung with a 335 from a 65mph start, is it going to beat much in a 1/4 from a dead stop? nope, i have had 2 911 Porsche both 996. An R32 an SLK 32 AMG, and none of them will put a smile on my face like this BRZ
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