What colour are the stock headlights on the 86?

[jon2]

White or yellow?

[Tcoat]

UMMMMMM Clear?

[BlackMonarch]

Question unclear. Do you mean the HID stockers? Probably the industry standard 6k for maximum whiteness. Halogen? Standard yellowish colour.

The literal headlights are crystal clear.

These kind of posts always make me think, what makes this user tick. What mental process matriculates the idea of posting on a forum to get an answer about this kind of thing as being easier than google or youtube? You can literally google "FRS headlights" and get 100k+ responses, one of them would answer the question....

What path of conciousness leads one to seek out others to answer questions, when one is perfectly capable of answering their own question? Why do SO MANY people try to out-source their fucking thinking?

TL;DR: USE THE SEARCH BUTTON (GOOGLE).

[phobos512]

Originally Posted by BlackMonarch

Question unclear. Do you mean the HID stockers? Probably the industry standard 6k for maximum whiteness. Halogen? Standard yellowish colour.

The literal headlights are crystal clear.

These kind of posts always make me think, what makes this user tick. What mental process matriculates the idea of posting on a forum to get an answer about this kind of thing as being easier than google or youtube? You can literally google "FRS headlights" and get 100k+ responses, one of them would answer the question....

What path of conciousness leads one to seek out others to answer questions, when one is perfectly capable of answering their own question? Why do SO MANY people try to out-source their fucking thinking?

TL;DR: USE THE SEARCH BUTTON (GOOGLE).

We don't teach people to think for themselves anymore. If they could they'd realize all the things that are wrong in the world and stop being good little consumers.

[Rakshaa]

If you are talking about the 86 HIDs, mine are stock at 4000k for the low beam projectors and 4300k for the LED DRLs. I do not know if the BRZ is the same, however the FR-S has no HIDs stock.

Hope this helps.

[carma143]

Layman talk:

Scion/Toyota: Yellow
Subaru: Blue w/yellow coverfilm (resulting in white)

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by BlackMonarch

Do you mean the HID stockers? Probably the industry standard 6k for maximum whiteness.

Industry standard for stock HIDs is 4300K, 35W.

6000K looks blue and stupid.

[chaoskaze]

^I hate ppl with super strong after market light that's not even adjusted & just shines at ur eyes from oncoming traffic or right into your rear view mirror.

[1GiantTurtle]

6000K with OEM ballasts, looks amazing but i'm getting tired of it.
My signature is stock temp 4000k

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[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

^I hate ppl with super strong after market light that's not even adjusted & just shines at ur eyes from oncoming traffic or right into your rear view mirror.

They don't even have to be super strong.

The more the light is shifted toward red, the less it affects your night vision. If you look at an area that is brightly lit with "white" light and then into a dark area, it will take your vision some time to adjust to the darkness so you can see there. If you look into a red lit area, your night vision will not be affected nearly as much, and you will be able to see more detail in the dark than if you looked at a white-lit area. This is why tail lights are red. If they weren't, people would constantly feel like they were being blinded by the traffic in front of them, even if the lights weren't that bright.

When you shift light the other direction on the spectrum toward blue, the negative effects on night vision increase. So where a red light is good for night vision, an amber light is okay for night vision, 2700K street lamps are not too bad, a 3200K light is not good, a 4300K is a little worse, a 6000K is bad, and an 8000K or above is terrible. Furthermore, an HID is not a continuous spectrum light, so you're getting a lot of blue overloading your night vision without the benefit of any longer wavelength light to mitigate the effects.

This is why the blue headlights are so annoying. A 6000K lamp doesn't actually have to be that bright to seem bright to oncoming traffic, because the oncoming driver is having his night vision diminished and instinctively feels that the light is too "bright" in comparison with everything else in his field of vision. But in the US at least, where so many people on the road just don't give a shit about other drivers, good luck convincing the guy running stupid blue lights on his car that he's being an asshole.

[venturaII]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

......This is why the blue headlights are so annoying......

FINALLY, someone else who understands why HIDs suck...

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by venturaII

FINALLY, someone else who understands why HIDs suck...

No, HIDs are fine. What sucks are blue HIDs.

The OEM HIDs on most cars that come from the factory with them are 4300K. That's the same color used in the fluorescent fixtures in most offices that have windows. Those are fine.

When you jump up to 6000K HIDs, that's when you have a problem. People just assume that all HIDs suck because the ones you notice are the 6000K and up bulbs. Those do suck, but because of the color, not because they are HIDs.

[venturaII]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

No, HIDs are fine. What sucks are blue HIDs.

The OEM HIDs on most cars that come from the factory with them are 4300K. That's the same color used in the fluorescent fixtures in most offices that have windows. Those are fine.

When you jump up to 6000K HIDs, that's when you have a problem. People just assume that all HIDs suck because the ones you notice are the 6000K and up bulbs. Those do suck, but because of the color, not because they are HIDs.

No - HIDs, no matter what color range they're in, still suck compared to incandescent due to the inherent nature of how HIDs generate their light. A good quality incandescent bulb is around between 2000 and 3000K, which is considerably less than an OEM 4300K bulb. At that color range, OEM HIDs are into the blue part of the spectrum and still have the same problems with contrast at the edge of the projected beam, and the same issues with glare in the rain and with oncoming traffic as 'hotter' HID bulbs. Whiter light simply isn't better for seeing at night under varying conditions.