Should I Buy FRS R-Titled From Hail Damage? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Rally · 12-01-2014, 10:37 PM

There is a black FRS with a Rebuilt Title for sale in my area for $15,000 with only 13,000 miles. The car looks brand new and was salvaged from a severe hail storm. The Shop did paintless dent removal and the car looks great. Would this be a good purchase at this price? I will try and talk the price down. And do you guys think a loan would be possible on this purchase?

-Thanks

Alltezza · 12-01-2014, 10:40 PM

So the hail storm is what caused it to be a rebuilt title?

Tcoat · 12-01-2014, 10:41 PM

If you are not worried about resale then jump on it!
Not like there would be any structural or mechanical damage.

phrosty · 12-01-2014, 11:08 PM

Not bad at all assuming everything else is in good order.

Lonewolf · 12-01-2014, 11:17 PM

As others have said....

If you are not worried about resale and just want to drive the car til the wheels fall off AND

the hail damage is the ONLY reason it is titled as a salvage

and the car looks flawless

THEN....BUY IT!

J_kennington · 12-01-2014, 11:33 PM

Must have been antarctic hail to have to been the sole cause of a total...

LavosTRD · 12-01-2014, 11:39 PM

something doesn't add up. how the hell can a car be totalled by insurance for hail damage that could be repaired by paintless dent removal...
did deeper my friend, dig deeper

dnieves · 12-01-2014, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LavosTRD

something doesn't add up. how the hell can a car be totalled by insurance for hail damage that could be repaired by paintless dent removal...
did deeper my friend, dig deeper

Did the hail cave in the roof, hood, trunk and glass? Any body work get expensive but hail damage?

shellslinger · 12-01-2014, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LavosTRD

something doesn't add up. how the hell can a car be totalled by insurance for hail damage that could be repaired by paintless dent removal...
did deeper my friend, dig deeper

Insurance usually doesn't work like that. Usually with estimators if there's a large enough dent, they usually write up the estimate for new part + labor. It's possible that hail damage did total out the car.

Lonewolf · 12-02-2014, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnieves

Did the hail cave in the roof, hood, trunk and glass? Any body work get expensive but hail damage?

Maybe the hail impact set off airbags...lol

ToySub1946 · 12-02-2014, 12:47 AM

What people often don't think about...
A heavily damaged car, due to an accident, costs a ton in parts, labor and paint work to repair. Therefore it's difficult to ask less than retail for a damaged car, even with a salvage title.

This case seems somewhat different. If the damage was able to be repaired without paint and parts, though seldom the case, the shop repairing it could allow only labor time, and be able to sell the car, much cheaper than retail.

As others have said, do more honest research on this car. If no paint work or if light paint work has been done (typically the sides, or one side of car will have been damaged as well in hail damage), then consider the price a deal. Yet certainly a car to keep forever, and don't expect retail price when you sell it, as others will also be skeptical.

As for insurance estimate for repairs after hail damage...I'd guess, these days, estimates for such damage could easily be upwards of 10,000 dollars. So this car could have been a total as far as insurance company was concerned....damaged above 75% of it's pre damaged value.

And keep in mind, you can probably find a 2013 FRS with low mileage, and a clear title for $18,000 with a little searching and possibly an airplane ride to buy it.
Wow, just looked cars.com. There are one's out there for 15k ...with a little looking around...as I tell others, don't be afraid of an airplane ride, once you've done thorough talking on the phone.

kchar · 12-02-2014, 01:39 AM

You can take a loan out on anything :3

Goodluck with haggling!

Rally · 12-02-2014, 01:34 PM

Thanks for all the replys guys. I will definitely be searching deeper into its title. I am looking at a few different FRS so hopefully will be joining you guys on the forums soon.

JRobes · 12-02-2014, 02:10 PM

there was a 2013 (last year) that I was looking at that had also been totaled from hail. Up in the midwest, we see some crazy weather, including golf ball sized hail and larger. I probably should have bought it, because now I'm just a creeper on the forum saving up for a house instead of enjoying the FRS. Sucks growing up.

12-01-2014, 10:37 PM	#1
Rally Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Drives: Mazda 3 Location: United States Posts: 61 Thanks: 5 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Should I Buy FRS R-Titled From Hail Damage? There is a black FRS with a Rebuilt Title for sale in my area for $15,000 with only 13,000 miles. The car looks brand new and was salvaged from a severe hail storm. The Shop did paintless dent removal and the car looks great. Would this be a good purchase at this price? I will try and talk the price down. And do you guys think a loan would be possible on this purchase? -Thanks

12-01-2014, 10:41 PM	#3
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phrosty Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Seattle Posts: 806 Thanks: 202 Thanked 321 Times in 199 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Not bad at all assuming everything else is in good order. __________________ 2013 Whiteout 6AT FR-S \| Perrin Inlet Tube + 2.75" CAI \| OpenFlash Header \| P&L Catback \| 4.88 Final Drive \| Dialed in OFT 2.0x Stage 2 E85 \| 18x8 Enkei Raijin + 225/40 Michelin Pilot Super Sport \| 17x7 Stock + 215/45 Michelin X-Ice Xi-2

12-02-2014, 12:47 AM	#11
ToySub1946 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: 15FRS, 05MustangGT, 85Toyota truck Location: Eureka, Ca. Posts: 573 Thanks: 672 Thanked 590 Times in 279 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	What people often don't think about... A heavily damaged car, due to an accident, costs a ton in parts, labor and paint work to repair. Therefore it's difficult to ask less than retail for a damaged car, even with a salvage title. This case seems somewhat different. If the damage was able to be repaired without paint and parts, though seldom the case, the shop repairing it could allow only labor time, and be able to sell the car, much cheaper than retail. As others have said, do more honest research on this car. If no paint work or if light paint work has been done (typically the sides, or one side of car will have been damaged as well in hail damage), then consider the price a deal. Yet certainly a car to keep forever, and don't expect retail price when you sell it, as others will also be skeptical. As for insurance estimate for repairs after hail damage...I'd guess, these days, estimates for such damage could easily be upwards of 10,000 dollars. So this car could have been a total as far as insurance company was concerned....damaged above 75% of it's pre damaged value. And keep in mind, you can probably find a 2013 FRS with low mileage, and a clear title for $18,000 with a little searching and possibly an airplane ride to buy it. Wow, just looked cars.com. There are one's out there for 15k ...with a little looking around...as I tell others, don't be afraid of an airplane ride, once you've done thorough talking on the phone. Last edited by ToySub1946; 12-02-2014 at 01:43 AM.

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12-01-2014, 10:40 PM	#2
Alltezza Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: WRB Limited BRZ Location: Tennessee Posts: 696 Thanks: 450 Thanked 276 Times in 177 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So the hail storm is what caused it to be a rebuilt title?

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Lonewolf Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Moped Location: CA Posts: 4,300 Thanks: 4,905 Thanked 2,132 Times in 1,195 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	As others have said.... If you are not worried about resale and just want to drive the car til the wheels fall off AND the hail damage is the ONLY reason it is titled as a salvage and the car looks flawless THEN....BUY IT!

12-01-2014, 11:39 PM	#7
LavosTRD Toyota Master Tech Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: Whiteout MT Location: San Diego Posts: 108 Thanks: 12 Thanked 50 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	something doesn't add up. how the hell can a car be totalled by insurance for hail damage that could be repaired by paintless dent removal... did deeper my friend, dig deeper

12-02-2014, 01:34 PM	#13
Rally Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Drives: Mazda 3 Location: United States Posts: 61 Thanks: 5 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks for all the replys guys. I will definitely be searching deeper into its title. I am looking at a few different FRS so hopefully will be joining you guys on the forums soon.

12-02-2014, 02:10 PM	#14
JRobes Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: Lifted '04 Grand Cherokee Overland Location: South Dakota Posts: 22 Thanks: 4 Thanked 22 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	there was a 2013 (last year) that I was looking at that had also been totaled from hail. Up in the midwest, we see some crazy weather, including golf ball sized hail and larger. I probably should have bought it, because now I'm just a creeper on the forum saving up for a house instead of enjoying the FRS. Sucks growing up.

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