BRZ/FRS vs Miata "Yusho" 240 hp - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ZmZMWagon · 06-03-2012, 12:54 PM

http://www.torquenews.com/1080/mazda...revealed-240hp

looks like Mazda might have something up their sleeve.....

fatoni · 06-03-2012, 01:19 PM

no they dont. there have been many turbo concepts but they never make it into real life

ZmZMWagon · 06-03-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

no they dont. there have been many turbo concepts but they never make it into real life

Good thing this one is supercharged. Mazda usually brings out a Mazdaspeed edition towards the end of a cars life cycle. It might happen.

fatoni · 06-03-2012, 01:34 PM

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Good thing this one is supercharged. Mazda usually brings out a Mazdaspeed edition towards the end of a cars life cycle. It might happen.

okay so this makes it just just like the time they were working with cosworth when the nc came out. they dont really make mazdaspeeds that often. its not going to happen especially after how poorly the old msm sold. there have been rumors and concepts ever since the nc came out. i dont see how this will be any different

Lonewolf · 06-03-2012, 03:45 PM

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okay so this makes it just just like the time they were working with cosworth when the nc came out. they dont really make mazdaspeeds that often. its not going to happen especially after how poorly the old msm sold. there have been rumors and concepts ever since the nc came out. i dont see how this will be any different

Yup, and Mazda does not have the coin to bankroll a special run like this right now...it's a shame though.

ichitaka05 · 06-03-2012, 03:55 PM

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no they dont. there have been many turbo concepts but they never make it into real life

'04~'05 Mazdaspeed MX-5 was turbo

ZmZMWagon · 06-03-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

okay so this makes it just just like the time they were working with cosworth when the nc came out. they dont really make mazdaspeeds that often. its not going to happen especially after how poorly the old msm sold. there have been rumors and concepts ever since the nc came out. i dont see how this will be any different

As poorly as the old MSM sold they still decided to make two gens of their Speed 3. I guess we'll just have to wait and see but I suspect Mazda will bring out an NC Speed version between now and the ND.

reni · 06-03-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

no they dont. there have been many turbo concepts but they never make it into real life

Name ONE Mazda turbo/FI concept that wasn't produced (official Mazda, not some aftermarket or speculation). They released the MS3, MS6, MS Miata, and there never was a turbo RX-8 concept.

fatoni · 06-03-2012, 05:11 PM

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'04~'05 Mazdaspeed MX-5 was turbo

i know. it didnt sell well and i think thats a pretty big part of the reason they wont make another one.

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As poorly as the old MSM sold they still decided to make two gens of their Speed 3. I guess we'll just have to wait and see but I suspect Mazda will bring out an NC Speed version between now and the ND.

the speed3 fills a different segment not to mention has a lower msrp. people didnt respond to the msm or the turbo skystice twins. i dont see what has changed

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Name ONE Mazda turbo/FI concept that wasn't produced (official Mazda, not some aftermarket or speculation). They released the MS3, MS6, MS Miata, and there never was a turbo RX-8 concept.

the miata. they dont name the cars something else so every miata concept is just called the miata

quik1987 · 06-03-2012, 05:21 PM

Better pics

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7603

catharsis · 06-03-2012, 06:23 PM

I don't see how this would be game over for the ft86. All it would is encourage subaru/toyota to finally put out a turbo model.

reni · 06-03-2012, 07:03 PM

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the miata. they dont name the cars something else so every miata concept is just called the miata

Oh right, Mazda selling nearly 900000 Miatas including several different turbocharged versions in different countries was just a figment of my imagination...

Anyway, I'm still waiting for one single example of a turbo/SC Mazda concept that they didn't produce.....

Snoopyalien24 · 06-03-2012, 08:16 PM

...if this happens...

fatoni · 06-03-2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by reni

Name ONE Mazda turbo/FI concept that wasn't produced (official Mazda, not some aftermarket or speculation). They released the MS3, MS6, MS Miata, and there never was a turbo RX-8 concept.

you know this one isnt official mazda right? this is basically the targa kit from flyin miata

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Oh right, Mazda selling nearly 900000 Miatas including several different turbocharged versions in different countries was just a figment of my imagination...

Anyway, I'm still waiting for one single example of a turbo/SC Mazda concept that they didn't produce.....

since the production of the nc there has been a superlight and a cosworth collab but thats just off the top of my head. in fact this is still probably the cosworth collab seeing as it is supposed to have cos internals and the cos supercharger from fm

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