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ZmZMWagon 06-03-2012 01:54 PM

BRZ/FRS vs Miata "Yusho" 240 hp
 
http://www.torquenews.com/1080/mazda...revealed-240hp

looks like Mazda might have something up their sleeve.....

fatoni 06-03-2012 02:19 PM

no they dont. there have been many turbo concepts but they never make it into real life

ZmZMWagon 06-03-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 238384)
no they dont. there have been many turbo concepts but they never make it into real life

Good thing this one is supercharged. Mazda usually brings out a Mazdaspeed edition towards the end of a cars life cycle. It might happen.

fatoni 06-03-2012 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ZmZMWagon (Post 238392)
Good thing this one is supercharged. Mazda usually brings out a Mazdaspeed edition towards the end of a cars life cycle. It might happen.

okay so this makes it just just like the time they were working with cosworth when the nc came out. they dont really make mazdaspeeds that often. its not going to happen especially after how poorly the old msm sold. there have been rumors and concepts ever since the nc came out. i dont see how this will be any different

Lonewolf 06-03-2012 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 238416)
okay so this makes it just just like the time they were working with cosworth when the nc came out. they dont really make mazdaspeeds that often. its not going to happen especially after how poorly the old msm sold. there have been rumors and concepts ever since the nc came out. i dont see how this will be any different

Yup, and Mazda does not have the coin to bankroll a special run like this right now...it's a shame though.

ichitaka05 06-03-2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 238384)
no they dont. there have been many turbo concepts but they never make it into real life

'04~'05 Mazdaspeed MX-5 was turbo

ZmZMWagon 06-03-2012 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 238416)
okay so this makes it just just like the time they were working with cosworth when the nc came out. they dont really make mazdaspeeds that often. its not going to happen especially after how poorly the old msm sold. there have been rumors and concepts ever since the nc came out. i dont see how this will be any different

As poorly as the old MSM sold they still decided to make two gens of their Speed 3. I guess we'll just have to wait and see but I suspect Mazda will bring out an NC Speed version between now and the ND.

reni 06-03-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 238384)
no they dont. there have been many turbo concepts but they never make it into real life

Name ONE Mazda turbo/FI concept that wasn't produced (official Mazda, not some aftermarket or speculation). They released the MS3, MS6, MS Miata, and there never was a turbo RX-8 concept.

fatoni 06-03-2012 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 238601)
'04~'05 Mazdaspeed MX-5 was turbo

i know. it didnt sell well and i think thats a pretty big part of the reason they wont make another one.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZmZMWagon (Post 238621)
As poorly as the old MSM sold they still decided to make two gens of their Speed 3. I guess we'll just have to wait and see but I suspect Mazda will bring out an NC Speed version between now and the ND.

the speed3 fills a different segment not to mention has a lower msrp. people didnt respond to the msm or the turbo skystice twins. i dont see what has changed
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Originally Posted by reni (Post 238646)
Name ONE Mazda turbo/FI concept that wasn't produced (official Mazda, not some aftermarket or speculation). They released the MS3, MS6, MS Miata, and there never was a turbo RX-8 concept.

the miata. they dont name the cars something else so every miata concept is just called the miata

quik1987 06-03-2012 06:21 PM

Better pics

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7603

catharsis 06-03-2012 07:23 PM

I don't see how this would be game over for the ft86. All it would is encourage subaru/toyota to finally put out a turbo model.

reni 06-03-2012 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 238696)

the miata. they dont name the cars something else so every miata concept is just called the miata

Oh right, Mazda selling nearly 900000 Miatas including several different turbocharged versions in different countries was just a figment of my imagination... :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'm still waiting for one single example of a turbo/SC Mazda concept that they didn't produce.....

Snoopyalien24 06-03-2012 09:16 PM

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3...ba1ro1_500.jpg

...if this happens...

fatoni 06-03-2012 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reni (Post 238646)
Name ONE Mazda turbo/FI concept that wasn't produced (official Mazda, not some aftermarket or speculation). They released the MS3, MS6, MS Miata, and there never was a turbo RX-8 concept.

you know this one isnt official mazda right? this is basically the targa kit from flyin miata
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Originally Posted by reni (Post 238833)
Oh right, Mazda selling nearly 900000 Miatas including several different turbocharged versions in different countries was just a figment of my imagination... :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'm still waiting for one single example of a turbo/SC Mazda concept that they didn't produce.....

since the production of the nc there has been a superlight and a cosworth collab but thats just off the top of my head. in fact this is still probably the cosworth collab seeing as it is supposed to have cos internals and the cos supercharger from fm


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