Fire extinguisher size and location - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

jflogerzi · 10-09-2014, 12:02 PM

I want to get one and have while i am driving on the track just in case. Whats the best size and place to mount one.

rb6freak · 10-09-2014, 02:13 PM

Do a search and you'll find locations where others have mounted. From what I've seen; front of seat, center console cup holder area and roll cage mounting options.

Here is mine - bracket from Speedtech NZ, extinguisher from local distributor.

Jawnathin · 10-09-2014, 03:07 PM

You want it to be secure so it doesn't fly out and hit your head in case of an accident. But you also want it easily accessible. But you don't want it in the way of anything. Not an easy thing to accomplish. The best I've seen are mounted to a roll cage behind the driver or mounted near the seat bracket in the footwells like rb6freak has shown.

Also look for auto specific fire extinguishers. You would want a BC which would cover oil/liquid and electrical fires. The A covers wood and compost like items. The stuff inside ABC extinguishers causes damage to a car electrical and metal components, so just BC are recommended. You would also ideally want something with Halon or Halotron inside as well, though they get a little more expensive.

I've been seeing lots of car fires recently so it made me strongly consider getting one. Both cars were totalled. The STI just finished an autocross run and it caught fire. It was determined it had a fuel link leak and caused significant engine compartment damage. I think $15k in repairs. The Evo on the track was a 100% complete loss. All that was left was a shell of the car, though they managed to save the wing spoiler, haha. I wish I could find the picture.

Anyway, I went with a BC and had to put it inside a compartment located in the trunk of my track car. Not an ideal location since its not as accessible, but I couldn't find a better place to mount it that wouldn't get in the way.

Dave-ROR · 10-09-2014, 05:14 PM

Rollbar/cage or a street car?

If a bar/caged car just pony up the extra and install a FSS with 2 nozzles (engine/driver compartment), 3 if you are using a fuel cell mounted to be accessible in the cable/trunk.

Since that is extremely unlikely, there are many options to mount them to sheet metal. USE REINFORCEMENT PLATES. You do not want to use 1/2" washers and have it slam into your head in an accident.

jflogerzi · 10-09-2014, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Rollbar/cage or a street car?

If a bar/caged car just pony up the extra and install a FSS with 2 nozzles (engine/driver compartment), 3 if you are using a fuel cell mounted to be accessible in the cable/trunk.

Since that is extremely unlikely, there are many options to mount them to sheet metal. USE REINFORCEMENT PLATES. You do not want to use 1/2" washers and have it slam into your head in an accident.

Street car. No roll cage

Captain Snooze · 10-10-2014, 03:53 AM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21249
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50806
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15588
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RehabJeff86 · 10-13-2014, 04:04 AM

@mkivsoopra could u pls share ur DIY here?

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MyRx · 10-14-2014, 02:18 PM

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@mkivsoopra could u pls share ur DIY here?

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I second that he shares his DIY @mkivsoopra

RehabJeff86 · 10-14-2014, 06:01 PM

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I second that he shares his DIY @mkivsoopra

We should all hv one in our car!

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ddeflyer · 10-14-2014, 06:18 PM

I agree that a fire extinguisher is a good thing to have. Just be aware that in a real issue, the 2.5lb ones we bolt to things are unlikely to put out the fire; only delay it (hopefully until someone arrives with a beefy one with some real oomf). At an auto cross we had a guy pop off a fuel line. We fully unloaded most of the extinguishers (I think there was a total of 10 there) on the car and the fire kept going until someone figured out that the ignition was still on.

Now a real, permanent system will do a hell of alot more and help keep you from being burned (by dousing you in retardant), but that is getting into track only/real race car territory.

RehabJeff86 · 10-14-2014, 06:20 PM

Good point!

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kster1 · 10-14-2014, 06:28 PM

There was a BRZ which burned down to bare metal last Sunday at the new Thunderhill West. Since then, I've been thinking of getting an extinguisher as well.

ddeflyer · 10-14-2014, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kster1

There was a BRZ which burned down to bare metal last Sunday at the new Thunderhill West. Since then, I've been thinking of getting an extinguisher as well.

Out of curiosity, any idea what caused the BRZ to burn? Did it have a modified fuel system?

CSG Mike · 10-14-2014, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kster1

There was a BRZ which burned down to bare metal last Sunday at the new Thunderhill West. Since then, I've been thinking of getting an extinguisher as well.

I dont think a small in-car extinguisher would have stopped that one, as the fuel and heat source were the cause, and an extinguisher would not eliminate those...

10-09-2014, 02:13 PM	#2
rb6freak Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 23 BRZ Location: CA Posts: 540 Thanks: 546 Thanked 688 Times in 300 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Do a search and you'll find locations where others have mounted. From what I've seen; front of seat, center console cup holder area and roll cage mounting options. Here is mine - bracket from Speedtech NZ, extinguisher from local distributor. __________________ SecondGen \| FirstGen \| Instagram \| YouTube

10-09-2014, 03:07 PM	#3
Jawnathin Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: Toyobaru FRZ Location: Home Posts: 230 Thanks: 92 Thanked 179 Times in 99 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You want it to be secure so it doesn't fly out and hit your head in case of an accident. But you also want it easily accessible. But you don't want it in the way of anything. Not an easy thing to accomplish. The best I've seen are mounted to a roll cage behind the driver or mounted near the seat bracket in the footwells like rb6freak has shown. Also look for auto specific fire extinguishers. You would want a BC which would cover oil/liquid and electrical fires. The A covers wood and compost like items. The stuff inside ABC extinguishers causes damage to a car electrical and metal components, so just BC are recommended. You would also ideally want something with Halon or Halotron inside as well, though they get a little more expensive. I've been seeing lots of car fires recently so it made me strongly consider getting one. Both cars were totalled. The STI just finished an autocross run and it caught fire. It was determined it had a fuel link leak and caused significant engine compartment damage. I think $15k in repairs. The Evo on the track was a 100% complete loss. All that was left was a shell of the car, though they managed to save the wing spoiler, haha. I wish I could find the picture. Anyway, I went with a BC and had to put it inside a compartment located in the trunk of my track car. Not an ideal location since its not as accessible, but I couldn't find a better place to mount it that wouldn't get in the way. Last edited by Jawnathin; 10-09-2014 at 03:18 PM.

10-09-2014, 05:14 PM	#4
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	Rollbar/cage or a street car? If a bar/caged car just pony up the extra and install a FSS with 2 nozzles (engine/driver compartment), 3 if you are using a fuel cell mounted to be accessible in the cable/trunk. Since that is extremely unlikely, there are many options to mount them to sheet metal. USE REINFORCEMENT PLATES. You do not want to use 1/2" washers and have it slam into your head in an accident. __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

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10-13-2014, 04:04 AM	#7
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10-14-2014, 06:18 PM	#10
ddeflyer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: BRZ Location: CA Posts: 564 Thanks: 99 Thanked 284 Times in 191 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I agree that a fire extinguisher is a good thing to have. Just be aware that in a real issue, the 2.5lb ones we bolt to things are unlikely to put out the fire; only delay it (hopefully until someone arrives with a beefy one with some real oomf). At an auto cross we had a guy pop off a fuel line. We fully unloaded most of the extinguishers (I think there was a total of 10 there) on the car and the fire kept going until someone figured out that the ignition was still on. Now a real, permanent system will do a hell of alot more and help keep you from being burned (by dousing you in retardant), but that is getting into track only/real race car territory. __________________ Fun car leads to autocross, autocross leads to track days, track days lead to lemons, lemons leads to racing school, racing school leads to spec Miata... No idea where it leads next!

10-14-2014, 06:20 PM	#11
RehabJeff86 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 WhiteOut FR-S Location: Dublin,CA Posts: 969 Thanks: 899 Thanked 492 Times in 306 Posts Mentioned: 67 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Good point! Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkfQ __________________ 2013 Scion FR-S whiteout 2012 Porsche Panamera S carbon grey 2008 Range Rover Sport SS black - sold 2004 BMW M3 alpine wies - sold

10-14-2014, 06:28 PM	#12
kster1 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 316 Thanks: 229 Thanked 212 Times in 121 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	There was a BRZ which burned down to bare metal last Sunday at the new Thunderhill West. Since then, I've been thinking of getting an extinguisher as well.

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