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Old 04-23-2014, 06:36 PM   #1
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Cool Question for oil junkies regarding Amsoil OE vs Amsoil Signature

Hey guys, about to do my first oil change so I setup a Preferred account with Amsoil and I was just wondering if any connoisseur in oils knew if a difference exist between Amsoil 0W-20 Signature and Amsoil 0W-20 OE other than the fact that the later is 5 bucks cheaper.

Also wondering if Amsoil XL could be a middle alternative quality-wise or if it's just a marketing bullshit (I plan to change my own at the recommended intervals anyway).

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The OE is a lower interval than the Signature.

Having been an Amsoil dealer for the past 12 years this is my take...

OE < Signature < European

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The OE is a lower interval than the Signature.

Having been an Amsoil dealer for the past 12 years this is my take...

OE < Signature < European

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Thank you for your answer. They only offer the European in 5W-30 or the Dominator in 5W-20. Do you personally think either Signature, European or Dominator are worth it for the extra 5$/quarts for very-spirited/occasional AutoX or should I stick with OE. And if you think they are worth it, can 5W-30 or 5W-20 be dangerous in the BRZ, which recommends 0W-20 ?

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The Signature Series is their top tier oil for standard passenger cars, but it is not API SN or ILSAC GF5 certified. For folks that want to run a certified oil, there are the XL and OE lines.

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Formulated for up to 10,000-miles/six month intervals, or longer when recommended in owners’ manuals or indicated by oil monitoring systems.

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The oil drain interval recommendations for many of today's vehicles extend well beyond the traditional 3,000-mile interval, especially when electronic oil monitoring systems are employed.

If you're pushing your intervals to 7,500 miles, the XL would probably be a better choice. If you change at 5-6k miles, the OE is probably fine. If the recommended interval in Canada is less than 7,500 miles, I would just go with the OE, you can always do a used oil analysis to find out how the oil is holding up.

I would probably go with a 5W-20 over a 0W-20. Looking at the OE line, the 5W-20 is slightly thicker at 100C, has a thicker High Temp High Shear, and has a lower NOACK volatility rating. The XL 5W-20 is even slightly thicker with a slightly better NOACK.

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The Signature Series is their top tier oil for standard passenger cars, but it is not API SN or ILSAC GF5 certified. For folks that want to run a certified oil, there are the XL and OE lines.

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Formulated for up to 10,000-miles/six month intervals, or longer when recommended in owners’ manuals or indicated by oil monitoring systems.

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The oil drain interval recommendations for many of today's vehicles extend well beyond the traditional 3,000-mile interval, especially when electronic oil monitoring systems are employed.

If you're pushing your intervals to 7,500 miles, the XL would probably be a better choice. If you change at 5-6k miles, the OE is probably fine. If the recommended interval in Canada is less than 7,500 miles, I would just go with the OE, you can always do a used oil analysis to find out how the oil is holding up.

I would probably go with a 5W-20 over a 0W-20. Looking at the OE line, the 5W-20 is slightly thicker at 100C, has a thicker High Temp High Shear, and has a lower NOACK volatility rating. The XL 5W-20 is even slightly thicker with a slightly better NOACK.

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Although I didnt understand a single thing from that post (sorry ) what I think I got is that in the end, XL 5W-20 would be my best bet. Correct ?
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Although I didnt understand a single thing from that post (sorry ) what I think I got is that in the end, XL 5W-20 would be my best bet. Correct ?
Basically, the specs on the 5W-20 is better for hard driving IMO.

A 5W-20 and 0W-20 may start with the same base oils, but an oil blender will add viscosity index improvers/viscosity modifers to achieve the lower cold cranking of the 0W-20. Viscosity modifiers are usually the first thing in oil to break down, which is why some people recommend sticking with a narrower viscosity spread (i.e. 5W-20 instead of 0W-20).

Yes, oils are improving these days but the specs of all Amsoil 5W-20's point to more robust oils than the 0W-20's.

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