Security Feature we need! (PUSH TO START) - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

congiiee · 04-12-2014, 10:03 AM

Okay so one of the dumbest things i find about my limited BRZ is that when I am away from my car and it is on (key is with me) it knows and beeps but still able to be driven if someone else tried to drive it.

Does anyone know if we can make it so that when the key is away from the car and it is still on to disable it from drive? Possibly through Ecutek? Maybe even a map that makes the throttle not work?

Idk if anyone finds this annoying but I don't wanna have to turn off my car whenever I have to leave it for a few seconds.

Jo_415 · 04-12-2014, 10:11 AM

I don't think it's a good idea. If your remote battery dies while driving on the twisties, you don't want your car to stop because the key isn't detected anymore.

Can't you just lock the doors even with the car running? I never checked.

Silver Ignition · 04-12-2014, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jo_415

Can't you just lock the doors even with the car running? I never checked.

You can lock the doors using the key blade in the door

Dake · 04-12-2014, 10:58 AM

If you drive a stick it won't matter for the vast majority of those interested in stealing it.

dem00n · 04-12-2014, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dake

If you drive a stick it won't matter for the vast majority of those interested in stealing it.

They'll still get.

SI Civics get stolen like no tomorrow in the five boroughs.

Dake · 04-12-2014, 11:08 AM

Well that's true - it's a regional thing in that regard.

dem00n · 04-12-2014, 11:09 AM

Don't forget, our cars are very desirable.

Very easy to sell our bumpers, fenders, seats and so forth on craigslist for a good and buck.

congiiee · 04-12-2014, 11:47 AM

Like I was thinking maybe have a custom map from ecutek where the throttle does nothing. This can be toggled before I get out of my car. No one would know to change the maps

Drive · 04-12-2014, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jo_415

I don't think it's a good idea. If your remote battery dies while driving on the twisties, you don't want your car to stop because the key isn't detected anymore.

Can't you just lock the doors even with the car running? I never checked.

It doesn't stop the car if it loses access to the key... it just won't turn on again after you stop the car.

Chen · 04-12-2014, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by congiiee

Like I was thinking maybe have a custom map from ecutek where the throttle does nothing. This can be toggled before I get out of my car. No one would know to change the maps

If your willing to change the map in the car why can't you just turn off the car?

FiRStsc10n · 04-12-2014, 02:31 PM

You can't really blame push to start for the annoyance of having to turn off your car when you walk away.

This would still occur with regular old turn key, you would have to turn your car off if you want to walk away, or you would be leaving the key in the ignition and thus allowing people to be able to drive with it.

Like mentioned above you can lock doors with key-blade.

N1rve · 04-12-2014, 04:24 PM

This is an issue I have with my 10 Series which I didn't have on my previous car (A Nissan Altima).

On my Nissan, I was able to get out of the car and then push the button on the handle to lock the car. If the intelligent key was still in the car, the car will not lock and it will beep if you tried to lock it with the button on the handle.

On this car, I have to physically lock the door (the button doesn't even work because it unlocks itself immediately), and then use the physical key. Have you not seen how small that key is? It's a pain to use LOL.

Nissan got it right for that... I can't believe Toyota/Subaru couldn't get that down.

Turning the car off and on is bad for the battery and engine. It increases wear and tear.

Jyn · 04-12-2014, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by N1rve

Turning the car off and on is bad for the battery and engine.

What, where are you getting that information from?

Just turn your car off. It's really not a big deal.

extrashaky · 04-12-2014, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by N1rve

Turning the car off and on is bad for the battery and engine. It increases wear and tear.

That's right. You should avoid cranking your car at all.

04-12-2014, 10:03 AM	#1
congiiee Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: WRB Subaru BRZ Location: Virginia Posts: 197 Thanks: 57 Thanked 62 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Security Feature we need! (PUSH TO START) Okay so one of the dumbest things i find about my limited BRZ is that when I am away from my car and it is on (key is with me) it knows and beeps but still able to be driven if someone else tried to drive it. Does anyone know if we can make it so that when the key is away from the car and it is still on to disable it from drive? Possibly through Ecutek? Maybe even a map that makes the throttle not work? Idk if anyone finds this annoying but I don't wanna have to turn off my car whenever I have to leave it for a few seconds.

04-12-2014, 11:09 AM	#7
dem00n Member of the year - 2016 Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Scion FRS Location: New York Posts: 3,575 Thanks: 788 Thanked 2,427 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Don't forget, our cars are very desirable. Very easy to sell our bumpers, fenders, seats and so forth on craigslist for a good and buck. __________________ Friends don't let friends Plastidip

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N1rve Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2019 BMW ///M4 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,332 Thanks: 102 Thanked 1,167 Times in 714 Posts Mentioned: 28 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This is an issue I have with my 10 Series which I didn't have on my previous car (A Nissan Altima). On my Nissan, I was able to get out of the car and then push the button on the handle to lock the car. If the intelligent key was still in the car, the car will not lock and it will beep if you tried to lock it with the button on the handle. On this car, I have to physically lock the door (the button doesn't even work because it unlocks itself immediately), and then use the physical key. Have you not seen how small that key is? It's a pain to use LOL. Nissan got it right for that... I can't believe Toyota/Subaru couldn't get that down. Turning the car off and on is bad for the battery and engine. It increases wear and tear. __________________ N1rve 2019 BMW ///M4 - Alpine White \| Sakhir Orange/Black Leather \| M-DCT \| Executive Package \| 19" Black 437M Wheels \| Carbon Fiber Trim \| Sunroof \| Active Blind Spot \| Heated Steering Wheel \| Adaptive M Suspension

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04-12-2014, 10:11 AM	#2
Jo_415 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: FR-S Monogram Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't think it's a good idea. If your remote battery dies while driving on the twisties, you don't want your car to stop because the key isn't detected anymore. Can't you just lock the doors even with the car running? I never checked.

04-12-2014, 10:58 AM	#4
Dake Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: Houston Posts: 1,081 Thanks: 469 Thanked 840 Times in 423 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If you drive a stick it won't matter for the vast majority of those interested in stealing it.

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Dake Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: Houston Posts: 1,081 Thanks: 469 Thanked 840 Times in 423 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Well that's true - it's a regional thing in that regard.

04-12-2014, 11:47 AM	#8
congiiee Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: WRB Subaru BRZ Location: Virginia Posts: 197 Thanks: 57 Thanked 62 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Like I was thinking maybe have a custom map from ecutek where the throttle does nothing. This can be toggled before I get out of my car. No one would know to change the maps

04-12-2014, 02:31 PM	#11
FiRStsc10n Canadian FR-S Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: FR-S '10 Series' Location: Windsor, Ontario Posts: 1,160 Thanks: 341 Thanked 695 Times in 413 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You can't really blame push to start for the annoyance of having to turn off your car when you walk away. This would still occur with regular old turn key, you would have to turn your car off if you want to walk away, or you would be leaving the key in the ignition and thus allowing people to be able to drive with it. Like mentioned above you can lock doors with key-blade.

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