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Scooby South · 05-14-2012, 03:29 PM

Pic From Perrin Performance Blog

HotLavaMann · 05-14-2012, 03:36 PM

It doesn't say the government is tracking this info. Just that it is available via black box. I for one think that's awesome. It will stop the crazyness of "the car launched itself when I hit the brake" when they really hit the gas. It will also make it easier in a court of law to determine who was doing what at time of impact. If you drive well and the accident is really "not your fault" then you have nothing to fear by having data available to back you up.

ahausheer · 05-14-2012, 03:41 PM

I'm all for this kind of thing if it doesn't add to the cost to much. It is these black boxes that got Toyota out of their acceleration issues.

Scooby South · 05-14-2012, 03:50 PM

I agree with you...

... some people don't like it because they think 'Big Brother' is watching...They have been on some vehicles since the mid 2000's...but some people didn't know ..

Bill

Jeff Lange · 05-14-2012, 03:52 PM

These are probably in almost every car sold today.

Jeff

ESBjiujitsu · 05-14-2012, 03:54 PM

i guess they know where my dealer lives then

Dimman · 05-14-2012, 04:06 PM

Why re-post in technical?

Draco-REX · 05-14-2012, 04:14 PM

It's only 30 seconds of data and it's only saved in the event of an accident (i.e. airbag deployment). I don't see what the big deal is.

Now if it were constantly transmitting telemetry and every mile was being recorded somewhere, THEN I'd be concerned. But 30 seconds that's constantly being overwritten?

If you're that paranoid, then be sure to drive normally for 30 seconds before you're pulled over ("I was looking for a safe place to stop") or drop the car off for service. But really, you're just being paranoid.

kimcicle · 05-15-2012, 01:26 AM

If you're that paranoid about the EDR you might as well start scratching off the VIN numbers on your vehicle too.

Bristecom · 05-15-2012, 01:29 AM

As long as it doesn't stream my speed and telemetry to the local police... But I think the problem is that people can use this as evidence against you by saying, "See, he was speeding before the crash so it was his fault," which wouldn't necessarily be true or fair...

Dark · 05-15-2012, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX

It's only 30 seconds of data and it's only saved in the event of an accident (i.e. airbag deployment). I don't see what the big deal is.

Now if it were constantly transmitting telemetry and every mile was being recorded somewhere, THEN I'd be concerned. But 30 seconds that's constantly being overwritten?

If you're that paranoid, then be sure to drive normally for 30 seconds before you're pulled over ("I was looking for a safe place to stop") or drop the car off for service. But really, you're just being paranoid.

Most of Toyota models are from 5-10 sec. I don't expect this one to be 30 sec.

OrbitalEllipses · 05-15-2012, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimcicle

If you're that paranoid about the EDR you might as well start scratching off the VIN numbers on your vehicle too.

*puts on tinfoil hat* Good idea!

Draco-REX · 05-15-2012, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark

Most of Toyota models are from 5-10 sec. I don't expect this one to be 30 sec.

Owner's manual (as pictured in the first post) says 30 seconds.

Dark · 05-15-2012, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX

Owner's manual (as pictured in the first post) says 30 seconds.

"or less"

05-14-2012, 03:41 PM	#3
ahausheer Re-member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Toyota camry Location: S. Cali Posts: 1,001 Thanks: 98 Thanked 292 Times in 152 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm all for this kind of thing if it doesn't add to the cost to much. It is these black boxes that got Toyota out of their acceleration issues. __________________ Nothing decays like progress, and nothing preserves like neglect.

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Jeff Lange Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 1986 AE86 GT-S, 2011 Lexus IS250 6M Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 661 Thanks: 136 Thanked 362 Times in 161 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	These are probably in almost every car sold today. Jeff __________________ 2011 Lexus IS350 F-Sport 6MT with LSD 1986 Toyota Corolla GT-S Supercharged

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HotLavaMann First 86 member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: FRS, Tacoma, Honda CB1100 Location: WA State Posts: 165 Thanks: 3 Thanked 92 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It doesn't say the government is tracking this info. Just that it is available via black box. I for one think that's awesome. It will stop the crazyness of "the car launched itself when I hit the brake" when they really hit the gas. It will also make it easier in a court of law to determine who was doing what at time of impact. If you drive well and the accident is really "not your fault" then you have nothing to fear by having data available to back you up.

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kimcicle Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: 2008 Infiniti G37S Location: United States Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If you're that paranoid about the EDR you might as well start scratching off the VIN numbers on your vehicle too.

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