PSA: New ECM file available for idle dip/extended crank time - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

andrew20195 · 03-26-2014, 03:05 PM

Came out today for Subaru. It's a TSB not a recall. Bulletin number 11-136-14. Subaru believes the issue is related to a/c compressor cycling.

NickFRS · 03-26-2014, 03:06 PM

So a new flash?

SloS14 · 03-26-2014, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NickFRS

So a new flash?

How else would you write it? Osmosis?

NickFRS · 03-26-2014, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SloS14

How else would you write it? Osmosis?

codesplice · 03-26-2014, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SloS14

How else would you write it? Osmosis?

I like to use a pencil in case I want to change it later.

Thanks for the headsup though @andrew20195 - I haven't encountered an idle issue yet, but I've been reading quite a bit about it. Good to know they've got a (suggested) solution.

Eurasianman · 03-26-2014, 04:13 PM

Can we get a PDF copy of this TSB, as well as, get it added here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21868 ?

Slysdexia · 05-14-2014, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by andrew20195

Subaru believes the issue is related to a/c compressor cycling.

That lines up perfectly with the idle dips I've been having. With AC on, coming to a stop after engine braking, it seems to not expect the AC to kick on so when it does the idle will dip, occasionally requiring the ECU to slam the spark advance to full, leading to some momentary spark knock. I do note that if I blip the throttle, it stays in elevated idle long enough to come to a stop and not do it until I've been sitting stopped for a bit.

I also note that the tach seems to go into a different mode during these. The idle will dip and the tach will lag, then move to a twitchier, faster mode before settling back down once idle speed has stabilized.

No AC means no dip, but I live in GA, so that's not often an option.

Think I'll head to my dealer.

zc06_kisstherain · 05-14-2014, 10:07 AM

TSB PDF will be helpful.
if i didnt get my OFT, i probably went dealer to reflash

Eurasianman · 05-14-2014, 12:48 PM

Contemplating if I should bother with the TSB even though I have not had any issues with the car since I bought it (September 2012). Almost have 17,000 miles on it and no lights. The idle has dipped on me, but, at least to me, has not seemed severe enough to take it in and have it looked at.

OrbitalEllipses · 05-14-2014, 12:55 PM

Had it done, still dip to ~400 RPM.

dsgerbc · 05-14-2014, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by zc06_kisstherain

TSB PDF will be helpful.
if i didnt get my OFT, i probably went dealer to reflash

It has been posted in the TSBs thread ages ago.

zc06_kisstherain · 05-14-2014, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dsgerbc

It has been posted in the TSBs thread ages ago.

I thought newer than that old one. lol

Dboe · 08-14-2014, 10:06 PM

Has anyone actually tried re-flashing already?
I have an openflash and have a different map on it, so it should have already fixed it. However, i notice this issue everytime.

themajesticone · 08-15-2014, 05:29 PM

OFT is offering the B series maps. have had it for a couple weeks now - it is working well.

03-26-2014, 03:05 PM	#1
andrew20195 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 321 Thanks: 154 Thanked 104 Times in 78 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	PSA: New ECM file available for idle dip/extended crank time Came out today for Subaru. It's a TSB not a recall. Bulletin number 11-136-14. Subaru believes the issue is related to a/c compressor cycling.

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NickFRS Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 Asphalt FRS Location: Gladstone Posts: 1,450 Thanks: 899 Thanked 440 Times in 286 Posts Mentioned: 75 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So a new flash? __________________ 2013 Sion FRS 2014 Subaru WRX 2014 Subaru XV

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Eurasianman Chief Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2013 DGM BRZ Premium 6MT Location: USA Posts: 573 Thanks: 145 Thanked 178 Times in 126 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Can we get a PDF copy of this TSB, as well as, get it added here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21868 ? __________________

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Eurasianman Chief Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2013 DGM BRZ Premium 6MT Location: USA Posts: 573 Thanks: 145 Thanked 178 Times in 126 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Contemplating if I should bother with the TSB even though I have not had any issues with the car since I bought it (September 2012). Almost have 17,000 miles on it and no lights. The idle has dipped on me, but, at least to me, has not seemed severe enough to take it in and have it looked at. __________________

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