Will I survive this winter? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Jertronic · 11-25-2013, 09:56 PM

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Here we go with the sub freezing temps. It's now go-time in New England for winter driving conditions. The FR-S is my daily driver and currently the stock all-seasons are my tires.

I plan on making observations of my experience this winter. Hopefully some interesting conversations and helpful info for others will come out of this thread.

I will comment after my first drive in winter conditions. While I am prepared to get dedicated snow tires and possibly dedicated rims I plan on holding out as long as possible.

This is going to be interesting.

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Muskokan · 11-25-2013, 10:00 PM

Lmao come up to northern canada bud.

BlueDubbinTDI · 11-25-2013, 10:02 PM

Move to FL. I witness this on my windshield like once a year...at most

Curtis · 11-25-2013, 10:07 PM

Im up in northern canada, wouldnt even dream of winter driving mine!

But others near me are winter driving there's, some put a heating pad on the transmission when it gets very cold

OICU812 · 11-25-2013, 10:07 PM

26F? That's shorts weather man

,....you got no worries, already been colder then -40 Deg C here and seen me these cars burning around no biggie.

BUY WINTER TIRES!!!! Stock are garbage in cold/snow...

mrceltic · 11-25-2013, 10:17 PM

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Here we go with the sub freezing temps. It's now go-time in New England for winter driving conditions. The FR-S is my daily driver and currently the stock all-seasons are my tires.

I plan on making observations of my experience this winter. Hopefully some interesting conversations and helpful info for others will come out of this thread.

I will comment after my first drive in winter conditions. While I am prepared to get dedicated snow tires and possibly dedicated rims I plan on holding out as long as possible.

This is going to be interesting.

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If you have the same Michelin Primacy tires as the rest of us... They are not all-season, they are strictly summer tires, and are not appropriate or safe for winter use, especially in Boston.

Please do yourself, and the other drivers, a favour and invest in winter tires. They're worth every penny on any car, but necessary for this car in your climate.

Kelbyat07 · 11-25-2013, 10:18 PM

Im going to put sandbags in my trunk and see how it goes from there.

Jertronic · 11-25-2013, 10:19 PM

I've got the OEM Bridgestone's that scion shipped some the vehicles with. I understand that the Michelins are more prevalent OEM.

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serith · 11-25-2013, 10:20 PM

Snow tires will make it a lot easier, and way more fun (not to mention safer).

mrceltic · 11-25-2013, 10:27 PM

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I've got the OEM Bridgestone's that scion shipped some the vehicles with. I understand that the Michelins are more prevalent OEM.

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Trade off some summer performance for winter traction... Not a bad deal, I'd probably still be driving mine if it was on all-seasons.

Instead of paying $1500+ for good winters! I bought a Saturn with new snow tires for $4000. Saves some km's on the FRS and keeps a little more gas money in my pocket, but it's not quite as much fun.

Dipstik-sportech · 11-25-2013, 10:45 PM

Jesus man 26f that's cold as F!! J/k, man you Americans are spoiled in the temps department. My car got so cold last year the stereo wouldn't turn on lol.

utekineir · 11-25-2013, 11:11 PM

our winters are pretty goddamn tame compared to people with real winter, our snow tomorrow will be gone Wednesday.

lot of days during the winter theres nearly a 50 degree difference between here and where family is in northern minnesota.

that said, i run dedicated snow tires on everything but the truck, and will never be going back.

Keep an eye on cl there are deals that pop up and go quick. I picked up a set of nearly new 16" snows on steel wheels yesterday for 400. Nice old couple, even had receipt from last winter.

ZDan · 11-25-2013, 11:14 PM

The OEM Bridgestone Turanza EL400-02 "all-season" tires apparently suck BAD in the white stuff. Check out how well they're rated in this Tire Rack customer survey:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...wws=N&showcm=N
Rated 24th out of 24 "Standard Touring All Season" tires. Worst tires in a crap category!
3.6/10 for light snow traction, 2.6/10 for deep snow traction, 2.5/10 for ice.

I would not be on those tires this winter if I might have to drive an FR-S or BRZ in the snow.

Honestly I have to thank this tire, as it prevented us from buying a '13 Mazda3 to replace my wife's '05. The 3 is also on these tires, and the handling felt so uninspired compared to our old 3 that I didn't want anything to do with the newer model. Based on reviews of this tire, that could have been mostly down to them sucking so bad.

1086 · 11-25-2013, 11:15 PM

Lol really? Some of you people are trying to compete for 'where I live it is colder' ?

"ah what bro?! 26 degrees!? you spoiled bro. get on my level, I live in -40 degree weather bro!"

11-25-2013, 10:07 PM	#4
Curtis Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ, 2005 Chevy Halfton Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 144 Thanks: 14 Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Im up in northern canada, wouldnt even dream of winter driving mine! But others near me are winter driving there's, some put a heating pad on the transmission when it gets very cold __________________ 2013 BRZ Sport tech, Saskatchewan

11-25-2013, 10:18 PM	#7
Kelbyat07 Poor College Kid Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: ~.~ Location: Chicago Posts: 2,801 Thanks: 246 Thanked 2,182 Times in 1,249 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Im going to put sandbags in my trunk and see how it goes from there. __________________

11-25-2013, 10:20 PM	#9
serith Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2009 Scion tC RS 5.0 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 148 Thanks: 44 Thanked 63 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Snow tires will make it a lot easier, and way more fun (not to mention safer). __________________ 09 RS 5.0 -- #862 of 2000 -- 5spd

11-25-2013, 10:45 PM	#11
Dipstik-sportech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 842 Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Jesus man 26f that's cold as F!! J/k, man you Americans are spoiled in the temps department. My car got so cold last year the stereo wouldn't turn on lol. __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished

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Muskokan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: white Sport-tech Location: Ontario Posts: 676 Thanks: 204 Thanked 320 Times in 149 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Lmao come up to northern canada bud.

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utekineir blowhard Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: frs, project forester Location: ma Posts: 980 Thanks: 53 Thanked 604 Times in 316 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	our winters are pretty goddamn tame compared to people with real winter, our snow tomorrow will be gone Wednesday. lot of days during the winter theres nearly a 50 degree difference between here and where family is in northern minnesota. that said, i run dedicated snow tires on everything but the truck, and will never be going back. Keep an eye on cl there are deals that pop up and go quick. I picked up a set of nearly new 16" snows on steel wheels yesterday for 400. Nice old couple, even had receipt from last winter.

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ZDan Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: '23 BRZ Location: Providence, RI Posts: 4,672 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,011 Times in 2,097 Posts Mentioned: 85 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The OEM Bridgestone Turanza EL400-02 "all-season" tires apparently suck BAD in the white stuff. Check out how well they're rated in this Tire Rack customer survey: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...wws=N&showcm=N Rated 24th out of 24 "Standard Touring All Season" tires. Worst tires in a crap category! 3.6/10 for light snow traction, 2.6/10 for deep snow traction, 2.5/10 for ice. I would not be on those tires this winter if I might have to drive an FR-S or BRZ in the snow. Honestly I have to thank this tire, as it prevented us from buying a '13 Mazda3 to replace my wife's '05. The 3 is also on these tires, and the handling felt so uninspired compared to our old 3 that I didn't want anything to do with the newer model. Based on reviews of this tire, that could have been mostly down to them sucking so bad.

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1086 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: UM86 - 6MT Location: CA (elevation 85 ft.) Posts: 518 Thanks: 383 Thanked 249 Times in 126 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Lol really? Some of you people are trying to compete for 'where I live it is colder' ? "ah what bro?! 26 degrees!? you spoiled bro. get on my level, I live in -40 degree weather bro!"

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