Monogram Series or 2.5L FR-S - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Chad86 · 11-10-2013, 08:33 PM

Hello fellow FT86ers! I've been following this forum from the start of everything GT86. Love this forum. I currently drive a 2003 Celica GT which I have been the original owner from 2003 and have 91,000 km on my car.

I am debating whether the purchase of the current FR-S or upcoming Monogram series is worth the upgrade from my 140hp Celica GT or do you think I should wait until the release of the 2.5L FR-S release. Nothing wrong with my current vehicle, just wondering other peoples' thoughts on waiting or purchasing over the next 6 months or so. My car runs great and I've never had any problems with it. Will I find much of a difference in acceleration & torque in the current FR-S compared with my 140hp Celica. Or is it not really much of a difference and therefore do you think I should wait...

The GT86 looks to be my dream car but there is so much debate around HP & low torque.

Chad86

BlueDubbinTDI · 11-10-2013, 08:35 PM

Have you even driven it yet? But I say if your car is running fine wait it out as long as possible and see what becomes official rather than "what might be".

Chad86 · 11-10-2013, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDubbinTDI

Have you even driven it yet? But I say if your car is running fine wait it out as long as possible and see what becomes official rather than "what might be".

I haven't driven the FR-S yet. I don't have a Scion dealership in town, but there is a Subaru dealership. I may have to go and test drive one

m.box.design · 11-10-2013, 08:54 PM

i'm sure if you go test drive one, you'll be leaving with one.

R.S-HawK · 11-10-2013, 08:56 PM

No such thing as a 2.5L FR-S, yet.

Go test drive the car, see if you like it, if not, stick with the GT and wait for more details about the 2015 model, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Kelbyat07 · 11-10-2013, 08:59 PM

If money is a problem with you then save up for a new sport car in the future. If not then go test drive one first. With that kind of mileage I would drive it for another good 50,000 miles.

Grip Ronin · 11-10-2013, 09:18 PM

never heard of a 2.5l frs

reni · 11-10-2013, 09:36 PM

Well, Tada-san has said they might improve the engine for future models, but there's no guarantee it will happen in 2015 or ever happen at all..

I guess the question is, would you be more dissappointed if you buy now and there's an improved version in 1 year, or you wait for 1 year and there's no improvement?

Ryuu0u · 11-10-2013, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by indesign

i'm sure if you go test drive one, you'll be leaving with one.

This man speaks the truth.

ichitaka05 · 11-10-2013, 09:43 PM

Why bump it up to 2.5L go w 2.2L call it NEW 22B lmao

humfrz · 11-10-2013, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad86

Hello fellow FT86ers! ........The GT86 looks to be my dream car but there is so much debate around HP & low torque.

...... Chad86!

Yep, like mentioned up above, go drive a FR-S/BRZ and see if has enough power for you ....

humfrz

Nemesis · 11-10-2013, 11:23 PM

I've driven an FRS 2x and found it to be plenty of torque for squirting around town. I was actually impressed. I think most of the nay-sayers are owners that want more for highway use and track times...

Choob · 11-11-2013, 01:21 AM

I Came From A 2004 Celica GT

So I think my opinion is important. The power is so much better then my celi and the car is better in every aspect. I still have my blue celica its kinda sad to leave my house and get into my frs, I feel like my celi is crying on the inside.

Chad86 · 11-11-2013, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choob

I Came From A 2004 Celica GT

So I think my opinion is important. The power is so much better then my celi and the car is better in every aspect. I still have my blue celica its kinda sad to leave my house and get into my frs, I feel like my celi is crying on the inside.

I still like my Celica after 10 years, but I love the looks of the GT86 so much more. I have sat in a new BRZ, but have yet to test drive. I just would hate to purchase the car to find out it is rear-wheel drive but goes the same speed...

11-10-2013, 09:18 PM	#7
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m.box.design Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 2013 Whiteout FRS Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 3,081 Thanks: 331 Thanked 1,662 Times in 933 Posts Mentioned: 107 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i'm sure if you go test drive one, you'll be leaving with one.

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Kelbyat07 Poor College Kid Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: ~.~ Location: Chicago Posts: 2,801 Thanks: 246 Thanked 2,182 Times in 1,249 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If money is a problem with you then save up for a new sport car in the future. If not then go test drive one first. With that kind of mileage I would drive it for another good 50,000 miles.

11-10-2013, 09:36 PM	#8
reni Nobody beats the B[I\|R]Z Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: shopping cart i stole from walmart Location: somewhere Posts: 939 Thanks: 262 Thanked 1,145 Times in 456 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Well, Tada-san has said they might improve the engine for future models, but there's no guarantee it will happen in 2015 or ever happen at all.. I guess the question is, would you be more dissappointed if you buy now and there's an improved version in 1 year, or you wait for 1 year and there's no improvement?

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Nemesis H. Badger Cares About Him Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: BMW 335i coupe w/ man.6 spd Location: US Posts: 146 Thanks: 6 Thanked 20 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've driven an FRS 2x and found it to be plenty of torque for squirting around town. I was actually impressed. I think most of the nay-sayers are owners that want more for highway use and track times...

11-11-2013, 01:21 AM	#13
Choob Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2013 Firestorm MT, 2004 Celica Gt Location: United States Posts: 114 Thanks: 50 Thanked 32 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I Came From A 2004 Celica GT So I think my opinion is important. The power is so much better then my celi and the car is better in every aspect. I still have my blue celica its kinda sad to leave my house and get into my frs, I feel like my celi is crying on the inside.

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