stock height stiffer springs? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

vgi · 10-03-2013, 05:54 PM

anyone makes those?

autobrz · 10-03-2013, 06:01 PM

I think your only solution are coilovers with longer springs to get the static height up at the expense of droop travel.

*except Ohlins R&T which I think can be run at stock height without longer springs.

Zach3794 · 10-03-2013, 06:08 PM

May I ask what your reasoning for wanting that is?

One option is to contact Ground Control. They make everything custom by the order and will help you with whatever you need.

mav1178 · 10-03-2013, 06:45 PM

Easiest way is to get some type of TRD/STi sport springs, with minimal drop and stiffer rate.

And virtually every type of coilover can be raised to stock height if it features proper design.

-alex

vgi · 10-03-2013, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zach3794

May I ask what your reasoning for wanting that is?

One option is to contact Ground Control. They make everything custom by the order and will help you with whatever you need.

trivial, driveway clearance. i have a pretty steep driveway to the sidewalk. tried the rubber driveway/curb ramp but it didn't work as the shape underneath didn't match mine.

vgi · 10-03-2013, 10:20 PM

i thought about coilovers but it's like 'killing a mosquito with cannon'. it's my DD and wouldn't be using the coils to their full potential.

Dezoris · 10-04-2013, 12:33 AM

Custom order for sure. Wont likely find a place selling higher rate springs at stock spring lengths.
Coilovers some will allow you stock height but as said $$ and overkill.

Kostamojen · 10-04-2013, 02:30 AM

BRZ front springs on your FRS and it will be plenty stiff at stock height.

vgi · 10-04-2013, 11:56 AM

@Kostamojen thank you for advice

does anyone actually know the stock FRS and BRZ rates (front and rear)?

nevermind, found it:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10416

Kostamojen · 10-04-2013, 03:32 PM

FYI I'm trying out the stiffer rear FRS springs with the stiff front BRZ springs and I like it a lot, I'm really satisfied. Make sure to get some camber bolts for the front too and maybe a front swaybar.

Foobar · 10-04-2013, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Zach3794

May I ask what your reasoning for wanting that is?

I saw the question and wondered the same thing and immediately thought "dude must be from the Northeast where most of our roads suck."

I'm on stock suspension with a lip kit and I've scraped that thing just driving on the street, forget about driveways and stuff!

Zach3794 · 10-04-2013, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Foobar

I saw the question and wondered the same thing and immediately thought "dude must be from the Northeast where most of our roads suck."

I'm on stock suspension with a lip kit and I've scraped that thing just driving on the street, forget about driveways and stuff!

I wanted it to be a rallycar project :P

ayau · 10-04-2013, 05:51 PM

Stiffer and OEM length springs won't necessarily give you the factory ride height. All things equal, a stiffer spring with the same OEM length will actually make your ride height taller than factory. This is because a stiffer spring will compress less when you lower the floor jack. Conversely, softer springs will let the spring "sag" more when you lower the floor jack.

What's your reasoning for going with stiffer spring rates? Factory springs are just fine for daily driving purposes.

vgi · 10-04-2013, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kostamojen

FYI I'm trying out the stiffer rear FRS springs with the stiff front BRZ springs and I like it a lot, I'm really satisfied. Make sure to get some camber bolts for the front too and maybe a front swaybar.

I'm not in a rush right now to add extra weight, the more so upfront.

10-03-2013, 05:54 PM	#1
vgi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: frs Location: nj Posts: 723 Thanks: 237 Thanked 348 Times in 232 Posts Mentioned: 58 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	stock height stiffer springs? anyone makes those?

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Dezoris Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: IL Posts: 2,857 Thanks: 519 Thanked 2,998 Times in 1,095 Posts Mentioned: 159 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Custom order for sure. Wont likely find a place selling higher rate springs at stock spring lengths. Coilovers some will allow you stock height but as said $$ and overkill. __________________ SAVAGEGEESE

10-04-2013, 11:56 AM	#9
vgi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: frs Location: nj Posts: 723 Thanks: 237 Thanked 348 Times in 232 Posts Mentioned: 58 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	@Kostamojen thank you for advice does anyone actually know the stock FRS and BRZ rates (front and rear)? nevermind, found it: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10416 Last edited by vgi; 10-04-2013 at 01:33 PM.

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autobrz Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: Mazda 3 Location: round rock, tx Posts: 413 Thanks: 487 Thanked 108 Times in 74 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I think your only solution are coilovers with longer springs to get the static height up at the expense of droop travel. *except Ohlins R&T which I think can be run at stock height without longer springs.

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Zach3794 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S, Raven, Manual Location: Vista, CA Posts: 396 Thanks: 81 Thanked 143 Times in 101 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	May I ask what your reasoning for wanting that is? One option is to contact Ground Control. They make everything custom by the order and will help you with whatever you need.

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mav1178 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry Location: 91745 Posts: 6,562 Thanks: 493 Thanked 6,097 Times in 3,029 Posts Mentioned: 95 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Easiest way is to get some type of TRD/STi sport springs, with minimal drop and stiffer rate. And virtually every type of coilover can be raised to stock height if it features proper design. -alex

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vgi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: frs Location: nj Posts: 723 Thanks: 237 Thanked 348 Times in 232 Posts Mentioned: 58 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i thought about coilovers but it's like 'killing a mosquito with cannon'. it's my DD and wouldn't be using the coils to their full potential.

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Kostamojen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 1993 Impreza w/ WRX Swap + FWD! Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 2,071 Thanks: 217 Thanked 952 Times in 500 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	BRZ front springs on your FRS and it will be plenty stiff at stock height.

10-04-2013, 03:32 PM	#10
Kostamojen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 1993 Impreza w/ WRX Swap + FWD! Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 2,071 Thanks: 217 Thanked 952 Times in 500 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FYI I'm trying out the stiffer rear FRS springs with the stiff front BRZ springs and I like it a lot, I'm really satisfied. Make sure to get some camber bolts for the front too and maybe a front swaybar.

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ayau Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Some rust bucket Location: Polar ice cap Posts: 3,058 Thanks: 312 Thanked 1,046 Times in 556 Posts Mentioned: 37 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Stiffer and OEM length springs won't necessarily give you the factory ride height. All things equal, a stiffer spring with the same OEM length will actually make your ride height taller than factory. This is because a stiffer spring will compress less when you lower the floor jack. Conversely, softer springs will let the spring "sag" more when you lower the floor jack. What's your reasoning for going with stiffer spring rates? Factory springs are just fine for daily driving purposes.

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