Motortrend Tests Tires with the BRZ, Mustang V6, and 328i - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Gaiakai · 09-19-2013, 10:24 AM

Similar to that one Motortrend Wide Open Throttle episode a few months back with Jesse

[ame]http://youtu.be/FSqWD5BSeoY[/ame]

DarkSunrise · 09-19-2013, 11:07 AM

The BRZ's stock suspension can clearly handle sticky street tires. Whereas cars like the 328 and Mustang felt unsettled with high performance tires, the BRZ chassis was "happy as a clam" (according to Randy) on the RE11's. Good to know as I've been thinking of making the move to similar tires.

Surprised the BRZ's laptimes didn't improve much with the max performance summer tires, even though subjectively they felt more responsive/grippy. I know I personally felt my FR-S was a lot quicker on the track/autocross on max performance tires, although my baseline was all-season BS Turanzas and not Primacys.

Lastly LOVE Randy's quote about the BRZ when he was finished lapping it. If I remember correctly, he had ranked it second in MT's Best Driver's Car competition.

Ralph Spoilsport · 09-19-2013, 11:34 AM

Randy's got "the grin"

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fatoni · 09-19-2013, 12:05 PM

i kinda think its funny that the brz responded with the smallest addition of speed to changing tires considering the hundreds of posts on this forum about how much faster the brz would be with tires than just about everything.

Rampage · 09-19-2013, 12:22 PM

A new target time for Randy Pobst on street tires at Streets of Willow in a stock BRZ 1:31.1. Now the track rats have another benchmark to shoot for.

Another thing that I found interest was that the Mustang, despite all that hate and slings and arrow that are leveled at it on most Japanese and European car forums, turned in the fastest time over the BRZ and the BMW when all three were on extreme performance street tires. It was also a V6. Sure, it looked like a wallowing pig in some of the corners but it was a fast wallowing pig.

Kostamojen · 09-19-2013, 03:23 PM

I want to watch a show with just Randy Probst driving cars... I love his commentary!

Razz · 09-19-2013, 03:43 PM

Yea,Randy is a great guy in person.

I remember tracking with him.

R2 · 09-19-2013, 07:57 PM

This is a great piece done by Motortrend with some really usefull insight and numbers. I wonder if the small difference in lap times between the Primacy HP's and the second tire they usedis because the two tires use the same or similar rubber compound. Randy mentioned better feel and more response on turn in which can be related to the tread pattern and tire construction of the second tire but ultimate grip never really changed.

tonylop33 · 09-19-2013, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razz

Yea,Randy is a great guy in person.

I remember tracking with him.

I agree. I had the good fortune of having dinner with him a few years ago. Great persons and one heck of a driver.

wrb · 09-19-2013, 09:12 PM

i am sure yall watched this video before
but just another video that talks about tire on brz

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQwWdZ00HYQ"]Modifying the 2013 Subaru BRZ! The First Change a Driver Should Make - Wide Open Throttle Episode 39 - YouTube[/ame]

Gaiakai · 09-19-2013, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrb

i am sure yall watched this video before
but just another video that talks about tire on brz

This was the episode I was talking about!

So it was Wide Open Throttle, not the J-Turn

Zaku · 09-21-2013, 01:14 PM

Which Enkei Rim is that in the Vid? something new?

09-19-2013, 11:07 AM	#2
DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,798 Thanks: 2,187 Thanked 4,243 Times in 2,221 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	The BRZ's stock suspension can clearly handle sticky street tires. Whereas cars like the 328 and Mustang felt unsettled with high performance tires, the BRZ chassis was "happy as a clam" (according to Randy) on the RE11's. Good to know as I've been thinking of making the move to similar tires. Surprised the BRZ's laptimes didn't improve much with the max performance summer tires, even though subjectively they felt more responsive/grippy. I know I personally felt my FR-S was a lot quicker on the track/autocross on max performance tires, although my baseline was all-season BS Turanzas and not Primacys. Lastly LOVE Randy's quote about the BRZ when he was finished lapping it. If I remember correctly, he had ranked it second in MT's Best Driver's Car competition. __________________ "Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time." 2022 BRZ Build 2013 FR-S Build

09-19-2013, 11:34 AM	#3
Ralph Spoilsport Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ, WRB Location: Galt's Gulch, NH Posts: 225 Thanks: 107 Thanked 207 Times in 93 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Randy's got "the grin".

09-19-2013, 12:22 PM	#5
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09-19-2013, 09:12 PM	#10
wrb frank Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: Subaru BRZ WRB Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 546 Thanks: 366 Thanked 379 Times in 149 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i am sure yall watched this video before but just another video that talks about tire on brz [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQwWdZ00HYQ"]Modifying the 2013 Subaru BRZ! The First Change a Driver Should Make - Wide Open Throttle Episode 39 - YouTube[/ame] __________________ 2013 SUBARU BRZ WRB LIMITED M/T Los Angeles, CA Build Photo Album - http://bit.ly/brz_wrb SoCal LA 86 Club Member

09-21-2013, 01:14 PM	#12
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09-19-2013, 12:05 PM	#4
fatoni Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: miata, mazdaspeed protege, ls430 Location: socal Posts: 4,416 Thanks: 599 Thanked 1,443 Times in 787 Posts Mentioned: 28 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i kinda think its funny that the brz responded with the smallest addition of speed to changing tires considering the hundreds of posts on this forum about how much faster the brz would be with tires than just about everything.

09-19-2013, 03:23 PM	#6
Kostamojen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 1993 Impreza w/ WRX Swap + FWD! Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 2,071 Thanks: 217 Thanked 952 Times in 500 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I want to watch a show with just Randy Probst driving cars... I love his commentary!

09-19-2013, 03:43 PM	#7
Razz Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Fast Location: United States Posts: 480 Thanks: 64 Thanked 101 Times in 71 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yea,Randy is a great guy in person. I remember tracking with him.

09-19-2013, 07:57 PM	#8
R2 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: Sask., Canada Posts: 250 Thanks: 84 Thanked 89 Times in 55 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	This is a great piece done by Motortrend with some really usefull insight and numbers. I wonder if the small difference in lap times between the Primacy HP's and the second tire they usedis because the two tires use the same or similar rubber compound. Randy mentioned better feel and more response on turn in which can be related to the tread pattern and tire construction of the second tire but ultimate grip never really changed.

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