Alignment question after swift sprigns - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

SliverBrz · 08-15-2013, 02:54 AM

So I had an alignment done when i got my swift springs install. They printed out a sheet and I never bothered to look at it.

Anyways, what made me look at the sheet again that sat in my glove box was the fact that i noticed on my rear, one wheel seemed more camber than the other. It was slight but I personally noticed it.

Im pretty much a noob still on alignment and i read the sheet.

it says left rear -2.14 degrees and right rear -2.29 degrees.

IS there a reason they did it that way?

cnk · 08-15-2013, 03:06 AM

There is no camber adjustment in the rear unless you get LCA's or UCA bushings. Some have used a modified camber bolt on the subframe to LCA mount as well.

SliverBrz · 08-15-2013, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnk

There is no camber adjustment in the rear unless you get LCA's or UCA bushings. Some have used a modified camber bolt on the subframe to LCA mount as well.

oh ok im a noob still thanks lol

shiumai · 08-15-2013, 09:42 AM

i also had unequal rear camber after spring installation; i had LCAs installed to equal them out. from talking to folks who have had springs installed, it's more common than not, to end up with unequal rear camber. the difference from one side to another varies; mine was about .25° different from one side to the other.

FReSh · 08-15-2013, 09:56 AM

That's not a huge difference in camber anyway. I wouldn't be overly worried about it.

console_cowboy · 08-15-2013, 12:32 PM

Honestly, I think you're running too much camber in the rear. I could be wrong, but my handling improved a great deal once I got my rear camber around -1.5. It also helped to have it equaled out and running a bit of toe in. I think getting some camber adjustment bushings or a rear LCA would really help out the consistency of your handling, although that's just my experience with the platform.

SliverBrz · 08-15-2013, 02:59 PM

So if i get LCA's in the rear I can adjust camber? Which ones are good?

Also what about the front, I want to camber it a little, what should i go with up there?

cnk · 08-15-2013, 03:09 PM

For LCA's, I went with the SPC arms as they are ~$200 and get the job done. You can look at others like Cusco, RacerX, GTWorx, etc. as well.

For the front, just get the OEM crash bolts or some camber bolts.

console_cowboy · 08-15-2013, 03:31 PM

I went with the OEM crash bolts and SPC rear LCAs as well. It was the most cost effective and easiest install option there is currently, but any of the rear LCAs will do the job.

SliverBrz · 08-15-2013, 03:32 PM

thank you =)

ZDan · 08-15-2013, 05:53 PM

~-2.2 camber isn't a big deal, and will give greater ultimate grip vs. less camber. Honestly I wouldn't bother with getting components to "correct" it. What does the rest of your alignment look like?

SliverBrz · 08-15-2013, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZDan

~-2.2 camber isn't a big deal, and will give greater ultimate grip vs. less camber. Honestly I wouldn't bother with getting components to "correct" it. What does the rest of your alignment look like?

Front Camber is -.14 , and -.16

Toe 0 Front

Toe 1/16" Rear

hanabie · 08-15-2013, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SliverBrz

Front Camber is -.14 , and -.16

Toe 0 Front

Toe 1/16" Rear

I have swift springs installed too.
Toe +0.16deg (close to 1/16")
Rear Chamber - 1.9 or -2.0 deg

ZDan · 08-17-2013, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SliverBrz

Front Camber is -.14 , and -.16

Toe 0 Front

Toe 1/16" Rear

IMO, you need more front camber, not less rear! -.14/-.16 is abysmally low. Crash bolts would get you at least a bit more for reasonable $$$.
Toe looks reasonable.

08-15-2013, 02:54 AM	#1
SliverBrz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: Silver 2013 BRZ limited Location: Los angeles Posts: 801 Thanks: 45 Thanked 184 Times in 125 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Alignment question after swift sprigns So I had an alignment done when i got my swift springs install. They printed out a sheet and I never bothered to look at it. Anyways, what made me look at the sheet again that sat in my glove box was the fact that i noticed on my rear, one wheel seemed more camber than the other. It was slight but I personally noticed it. Im pretty much a noob still on alignment and i read the sheet. it says left rear -2.14 degrees and right rear -2.29 degrees. IS there a reason they did it that way?

08-15-2013, 09:56 AM	#5
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cnk Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: '13 DGM BRZ Limited Location: NJ Posts: 1,201 Thanks: 59 Thanked 547 Times in 339 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There is no camber adjustment in the rear unless you get LCA's or UCA bushings. Some have used a modified camber bolt on the subframe to LCA mount as well.

08-15-2013, 09:42 AM	#4
shiumai Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 DGM BRZ, 2020 C8 Corvette Location: USofA! Posts: 1,760 Thanks: 963 Thanked 1,893 Times in 787 Posts Mentioned: 41 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	i also had unequal rear camber after spring installation; i had LCAs installed to equal them out. from talking to folks who have had springs installed, it's more common than not, to end up with unequal rear camber. the difference from one side to another varies; mine was about .25° different from one side to the other.

08-15-2013, 12:32 PM	#6
console_cowboy Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Black BRZ Limited Location: Mississippi Posts: 81 Thanks: 42 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Honestly, I think you're running too much camber in the rear. I could be wrong, but my handling improved a great deal once I got my rear camber around -1.5. It also helped to have it equaled out and running a bit of toe in. I think getting some camber adjustment bushings or a rear LCA would really help out the consistency of your handling, although that's just my experience with the platform.

08-15-2013, 02:59 PM	#7
SliverBrz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: Silver 2013 BRZ limited Location: Los angeles Posts: 801 Thanks: 45 Thanked 184 Times in 125 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So if i get LCA's in the rear I can adjust camber? Which ones are good? Also what about the front, I want to camber it a little, what should i go with up there?

08-15-2013, 03:09 PM	#8
cnk Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: '13 DGM BRZ Limited Location: NJ Posts: 1,201 Thanks: 59 Thanked 547 Times in 339 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	For LCA's, I went with the SPC arms as they are ~$200 and get the job done. You can look at others like Cusco, RacerX, GTWorx, etc. as well. For the front, just get the OEM crash bolts or some camber bolts.

08-15-2013, 03:31 PM	#9
console_cowboy Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Black BRZ Limited Location: Mississippi Posts: 81 Thanks: 42 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I went with the OEM crash bolts and SPC rear LCAs as well. It was the most cost effective and easiest install option there is currently, but any of the rear LCAs will do the job.

08-15-2013, 03:32 PM	#10
SliverBrz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: Silver 2013 BRZ limited Location: Los angeles Posts: 801 Thanks: 45 Thanked 184 Times in 125 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	thank you =)

08-15-2013, 05:53 PM	#11
ZDan Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: '23 BRZ Location: Providence, RI Posts: 4,588 Thanks: 1,378 Thanked 3,893 Times in 2,034 Posts Mentioned: 85 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	~-2.2 camber isn't a big deal, and will give greater ultimate grip vs. less camber. Honestly I wouldn't bother with getting components to "correct" it. What does the rest of your alignment look like?

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