FA20Club questions - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

brocktwalker · 07-25-2013, 01:59 AM

Hey guys, I have looked at fully blown turbo, Greddy, even Vortech super charger, but I think I have decided on FA20Club turbo. I still have questions about the turbo and about how to really boost my car. @FA20Club.com

Questions
1) I am wondering what is the highest boost you can run on pump gas with your turbo and what numbers are we talking about?

2) Do you think that Water methanol injectors would work well for daily use with your turbo?

I am shooting for around 400whp and I am lost on how to reach these kinda numbers safe enough to daily the car. I have no access to E85 and any help with my questions is greatly appreciated.

pmccut · 07-25-2013, 02:06 AM

Safe is relative. This topic is discussed through all too many threads in this section with no right answer. If you have access to 93 it's likely you can achieve 300whp with the right tuning. If you're stuck with 91 like me, you're effed. I don't know of anyone pushing 400whp on pump gas, that's certainly E85 territory from what I've seen.

Just check out the build threads for those with the fa20club to figure out what seems safe to you.

lexusb3 · 07-25-2013, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by brocktwalker

Hey guys, I have looked at fully blown turbo, Greddy, even Vortech super charger, but I think I have decided on FA20Club turbo. I still have questions about the turbo and about how to really boost my car. @FA20Club.com

Questions
1) I am wondering what is the highest boost you can run on pump gas with your turbo and what numbers are we talking about?

2) Do you think that Water methanol injectors would work well for daily use with your turbo?

I am shooting for around 400whp and I am lost on how to reach these kinda numbers safe enough to daily the car. I have no access to E85 and any help with my questions is greatly appreciated.

Good choice going with @FA20Club.com!!!
16psi with e85 I'm at 432hp I wish I can make that on pump lol 10psi i did about 330-340hp send them a message and get all the info you need

King Tut · 07-25-2013, 11:39 AM

I am not sure that WMI will be enough to add in the timing and boost needed to get to 400 whp without a large turbo. If 400 whp is the goal, I would drop in some low compression pistons and go to town.

Frs300 · 07-25-2013, 11:54 AM

@brocktwalker @FA20Club.com doesnt have a WMI setup with failsafe available at this point in time. Thats doesnt mean you couldnt use some other shops setup.

Frs300 · 07-25-2013, 11:55 AM

not sure why it did same post twice

nix · 07-25-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by brocktwalker

I am shooting for around 400whp and I am lost on how to reach these kinda numbers safe enough to daily the car. I have no access to E85 and any help with my questions is greatly appreciated.

Even on e85 you will have to build the engine to run 400whp safely.

Frs300 · 07-25-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nix

Even on e85 you will have to build the engine to run 400whp safely.

how do you figure considering ppl are at or above 400hp on stock block and E85 now
@lexusb3 drives the crap out of his car and hes at 425 on e85 and stock internals

brocktwalker · 07-25-2013, 01:06 PM

I could get to 330. Pay the turbo off and get a second loan for built internals

brocktwalker · 07-25-2013, 01:13 PM

My think is what kinda numbers could I get on pump 93 with built internals from dynosity and FA20club turbo kit? The total would be about 10 grand plus vehicle I am looking at a 35,000 car. Am I going to get the numbers that a car should at that price range. I could 2JZ but I don't want that I want the FA20 motor. To me it is cooler to have the built motor than to just swap it and say I got high numbers. More pride with the FA20.

lexusb3 · 07-25-2013, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Frs300

how do you figure considering ppl are at or above 400hp on stock block and E85 now
@lexusb3 drives the crap out of his car and hes at 425 on e85 and stock internals

Tru and @Frs300 correction 432 hahahhaha... I abuse my car and its my daily for now and I have stock internals.... The Tune

!!!

Frs300 · 07-25-2013, 01:27 PM

built motor and 93 can get 400+ easy. im doing @FA20Club.com built motor and turbo and shooting for 500s

brocktwalker · 07-25-2013, 01:50 PM

If I could afford it I would move just to be in reach of E85 so I could boost with stock internals. 330whp would be nice for a beginner to sports cars. And I could save and just gradually work my way.

SkAsphalt · 07-25-2013, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Frs300

how do you figure considering ppl are at or above 400hp on stock block and E85 now
@lexusb3 drives the crap out of his car and hes at 425 on e85 and stock internals

He said you have to build it to make it reliable and I think he is right. upgrading the baseline parts of your motor is probably a smart idea for it to handle an extra 265hp at the wheels

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Frs300 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Pile of junk Location: florida Posts: 1,190 Thanks: 264 Thanked 968 Times in 413 Posts Mentioned: 232 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	@brocktwalker @FA20Club.com doesnt have a WMI setup with failsafe available at this point in time. Thats doesnt mean you couldnt use some other shops setup.

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