Stock brakes too weak? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Alabang BRZ · 06-20-2013, 07:23 AM

In the space of 1 week I've seen a couple of accidents (out of 300-400 GT86/BRZs) concerning the braking power in the Philippines.

Does this follow in other places?

atledreier · 06-20-2013, 07:28 AM

I can easily hit ABS threshold with my brakes, so tires are more of an issue.

Perihelion · 06-20-2013, 07:37 AM

I have no issues with my brakes. I've had a couple of "oh shit" moments and the brakes came thru

andrewFT86 · 06-20-2013, 07:48 AM

Same brakes for the WRX, a heavier and faster car (straight line).
Better tires, ss brake lines and better pads should help. Being an "educated" driver will help some more.

Panman · 06-20-2013, 08:36 AM

Because Racecar does not = Racedriver.

Only one of the two above is on stock wheels (so presumably tyres) - in 99% of cases in a rear end accident the car behind is at fault, and in the other 1% the car behind is still at fault. If the brakes/tyres whatever wont stop you before you hit the guy in front - leave more room. If you don't know how far that is, leave more room.

And.... Having driven in the Philippines I know that leaving room means someone will occupy it - however, my point remains the same.

Alabang BRZ · 06-20-2013, 08:52 AM

Thanks!

I get what you mean guys. I am magnitudes less worried now.

Though I have zero competitive racing experience I do have over a dozen years of driving cars more powerful than a BRZ. All the accidents I get involved in has me being stationary.

Perihelion · 06-20-2013, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panman

Because Racecar does not = Racedriver.

Only one of the two above is on stock wheels (so presumably tyres) - in 99% of cases in a rear end accident the car behind is at fault, and in the other 1% the car behind is still at fault. If the brakes/tyres whatever wont stop you before you hit the guy in front - leave more room. If you don't know how far that is, leave more room.

And.... Having driven in the Philippines I know that leaving room means someone will occupy it - however, my point remains the same.

Yeah driving in Asia is quite a scary adventure. My first time in China, I used to close my eyes when I sat in cabs.

Ryuu0u · 06-20-2013, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alabang BRZ

In the space of 1 week I've seen a couple of accidents (out of 300-400 GT86/BRZs) concerning the braking power in the Philippines.

Have you ever been to the Philipines? Street signs and rules of traffic are almost optional there lol I remember taking a motorcycle taxi and the guy weaving in and out of traffic on to the side walk.

swift996 · 06-20-2013, 11:19 AM

I didn't like the pedal feel of the stock brakes but the 86 is going to have better stopping power than most vehicles on the road.

infinite012 · 06-20-2013, 11:45 AM

Leave more room.

If that is insufficient, drive slower.

supramkivtt2jz · 06-20-2013, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swift996

I didn't like the pedal feel of the stock brakes but the 86 is going to have better stopping power than most vehicles on the road.

They definately do. They dont compare to a corvette or anything, but theyve brough me to a stand still quick enough to be more impressed than any other car ive truly ****ed with

Anduz · 06-20-2013, 12:19 PM

Yea the brakes are not the best tbh, done a few hill runs and sometimes on the down hill def feel i need a bit more brake power... Maybe a nice set of pads will fix this.

SubieNate · 06-20-2013, 12:35 PM

EEBSASW.

Error exists between seat and steering wheel.

CSG Mike · 06-20-2013, 01:08 PM

Sounds like people going too fast for the conditions... 100% driver error. Leave yourself defensible space.

06-20-2013, 07:23 AM	#1
Alabang BRZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: 1780 Posts: 181 Thanks: 10 Thanked 58 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Stock brakes too weak? In the space of 1 week I've seen a couple of accidents (out of 300-400 GT86/BRZs) concerning the braking power in the Philippines. Does this follow in other places?

06-20-2013, 07:37 AM	#3
Perihelion Unemployed DIY Ninja Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ, 1983 MB SD300 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 672 Thanks: 200 Thanked 178 Times in 132 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I have no issues with my brakes. I've had a couple of "oh shit" moments and the brakes came thru __________________ 2013 SWP Subaru BRZ - Panda'd FS: BNIB WORK 11R 17x9 +38 [Custom] 5x100 PCD [Custom] 56.1 Bore

06-20-2013, 08:36 AM	#5
Panman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 86 GTS Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 706 Thanks: 141 Thanked 275 Times in 176 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Because Racecar does not = Racedriver. Only one of the two above is on stock wheels (so presumably tyres) - in 99% of cases in a rear end accident the car behind is at fault, and in the other 1% the car behind is still at fault. If the brakes/tyres whatever wont stop you before you hit the guy in front - leave more room. If you don't know how far that is, leave more room. And.... Having driven in the Philippines I know that leaving room means someone will occupy it - however, my point remains the same. Last edited by Panman; 06-20-2013 at 08:49 AM. Reason: Local knowledge

06-20-2013, 11:19 AM	#9
swift996 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited 6MT Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 2,432 Thanks: 712 Thanked 955 Times in 545 Posts Mentioned: 47 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I didn't like the pedal feel of the stock brakes but the 86 is going to have better stopping power than most vehicles on the road. __________________ Innovate Supercharged Black Limited BRZ 6-Speed MT(Build Thread) 2010 Cadillac CTS-V Sedan M6 w/550whp (Build Thread)

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Anduz Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Audi A3 Location: Perth, WA Posts: 93 Thanks: 26 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yea the brakes are not the best tbh, done a few hill runs and sometimes on the down hill def feel i need a bit more brake power... Maybe a nice set of pads will fix this. __________________ Black?

06-20-2013, 07:48 AM	#4
andrewFT86 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: dark grey metallic Toyota 86 MT Location: Philippines Posts: 306 Thanks: 120 Thanked 135 Times in 88 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Same brakes for the WRX, a heavier and faster car (straight line). Better tires, ss brake lines and better pads should help. Being an "educated" driver will help some more.

06-20-2013, 08:52 AM	#6
Alabang BRZ Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: 1780 Posts: 181 Thanks: 10 Thanked 58 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks! I get what you mean guys. I am magnitudes less worried now. Though I have zero competitive racing experience I do have over a dozen years of driving cars more powerful than a BRZ. All the accidents I get involved in has me being stationary.

06-20-2013, 11:45 AM	#10
infinite012 Banned Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 13 DGM BRZ Ltd Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 974 Thanks: 294 Thanked 470 Times in 255 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	Leave more room. If that is insufficient, drive slower.

06-20-2013, 12:35 PM	#13
SubieNate Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Ultramarine Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 959 Thanks: 288 Thanked 560 Times in 269 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	EEBSASW. Error exists between seat and steering wheel.

06-20-2013, 01:08 PM	#14
CSG Mike Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: S2000 CR Location: Orange County Posts: 14,562 Thanks: 8,942 Thanked 14,211 Times in 6,854 Posts Mentioned: 970 Post(s) Tagged: 14 Thread(s)	Sounds like people going too fast for the conditions... 100% driver error. Leave yourself defensible space.

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