Uel vs el which headers do you have and why? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Mike86 · 05-14-2013, 07:00 PM

Im looking to get some info on headers but cant seem to decide between el vs uel ??

Captain Snooze · 05-14-2013, 07:05 PM

Why don't you get equal length on one side and unequal on the other?

Opposed · 05-14-2013, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike86

Im looking to get some info on headers but cant seem to decide between el vs uel ??

What can't you decide on? Sound? or Performance? It really comes down to personal preference to be honest. I have always loved the boxer sound. Never onwed a Subie before, so it was something I always wanted to have at one point in my life. So it was an easy descision for me to go with UEL. I couldn't be happier to be honest. It sounds great and the performance gains were an added bonus. But there are some great EL headers in the making as well.

Start here

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31555

Captain Snooze · 05-14-2013, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Opposed

It really comes down to personal preference to be honest.

This.
Hence my sarcastic post above. You will get people saying they prefer this over that but their opinion has nothing to do with which one you prefer.

jflogerzi · 05-14-2013, 07:12 PM

UEL! Sound plus look at JDL's. Torque dip is completely gone, and look at how much max TQ they make down low. The dyno at the end of thread that was posted was pure sex. Add in some weight reduction, LW crank pulley and flywheel along with a headerback exhaust of your choice

ngabdala · 05-14-2013, 07:18 PM

I have also ordered JDL's UEL for numerous reasons.

The dyno you speak of IIRC is with E85

Quote:

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

UEL! Sound plus look at JDL's. Torque dip is completely gone, and look at how much max TQ they make down low. The dyno at the end of thread that was posted was pure sex. Add in some weight reduction, LW crank pulley and flywheel along with a headerback exhaust of your choice

mkivsoopra · 05-14-2013, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Why don't you get equal length on one side and unequal on the other?

I'd like to see that...

killerkid08 · 05-14-2013, 07:38 PM

what would you rather have ?

the rumbling subaru burble or a the more refined smooth idle of a 4 cylinder porsche ?

to each his own when it comes to this choice, both sound very good. You won't get much love from anyone if you are posting a video of your EL header + exhaust because the sound that they make doesnt really come into its own until about 6000 rpm or so. After that it becomes a song worth hearing on every drive.

The UEL doesn't need nearly as much as the above, just go on youtube lol. The low pitch thumping comes across quite well on camera.

jflogerzi · 05-14-2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ngabdala

I have also ordered JDL's UEL for numerous reasons.

The dyno you speak of IIRC is with E85

Yes I know. Most people knew it was going to take H+E with 85 Tune

No Brakes · 05-14-2013, 07:42 PM

correct me if im wrong but i believe the EL headers make more power? i want UEL because i love the sound they make. so the decision is power or sound

Gary in NJ · 05-14-2013, 07:43 PM

If you want to keep the front cat, your only choice is EL.

-DK- · 05-14-2013, 07:51 PM

Anyone mind giving a quick summary of the differences on UEL/EL or providing a link? I'm in the search for an aftermarket header myself so I'm trying to understand the difference as well.

norsamerican · 05-14-2013, 07:53 PM

UeL bc Subaru

Opposed · 05-14-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by No Brakes

correct me if im wrong but i believe the EL headers make more power? i want UEL because i love the sound they make. so the decision is power or sound

Haven't seen any proof of that yet on the FA20. They seem to be about the same with a tune with the UEL having an advantage in the lower torque are.

05-14-2013, 07:00 PM	#1
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