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Old 05-10-2013, 01:11 AM   #1
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Any issues running Stance LCAs and GTSPEC toe rods/trailing arms?

Does anyone know if there are any issues in running Stance lower control arms in conjunction with GTSPEC toe rods/trailing arms?

I bolded the important parts.
It seems as if they might clash in design if one lowers and one raises the rear because of the bends in the arm.

I thought they would go together because of these bends but another thread brought it to my attention and I wanted to verify this information before picking up more parts.
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From their descriptions:

"GTSPEC rear control arm is used for track or street cars that require rear camber adjustment as a result of coilover installed or wider wheel fitment. In addition to camber adjustment, we redesigned our rear control arm brace to include a +30mm bend.

When cars are lowered it creates a positive camber, which will generate extra stress on the stock control arm. Our new rear control arm is designed with a +30mm bend to compensate for the extra stress that was caused by lowering the vehicle. The +30mm bend is suitable for "1 to 1.5" drop vehicles. A stock control arm or stock like aftermarket control arm is mainly designed to adjust camber only and does not have this added feature.

In addition, we have upgraded the end joints of our control arm to forged 7075 aluminum for extra strength and durability, unlike other competitive products.

*NOTE:*
Not recommended for stock vehicle (non-drop). The rear of the car will be higher than the front."


"Stance Adjustable Lower Control Arms are made from billet aluminum for strength and durability. The Lower Control arms are used to adjust camber and the range achieved with these is negative 1deg - 6deg. Stance also implements Aurora Rod ends on these arms. The most important part of aftermarket suspension links are the rod ends. Aurora spherical rod ends are one of the most expensive and high quality rod ends on the market, and for good reason. Aurora ends are used in both military and NASA Applications, so their quality pretty much speaks for itself.

Stance actually uses Aurora's 3pcs billet rod end bearings to be exact. Aurora bearings use a sintered steel ball to handle extremely high loads. The Rod ends feature special chemical bonded PTFE liners for smooth operation, less noise, and long life. The rod end housings are heat treated and zinc coated for strength and durability as well.

The Stance Lower Control Arms are designed to raise the hub mounting point about 20mm when compared to stock, which lowers the car about 25mm. This allows for longer stroke dampers found on the Stance FR-S application, and have more height adjustment range. This design is especially helpful for 1-way height adjustable coilovers like KW, which lose stroke as you lower the car."
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dont get either and wait for the whiteline ones. if you really need it, i'd go with cusco, then stance.
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The bend faces down, so it gives you more shock travel at the same ride height. If you don't have coilovers it will lower the rear more than expected, so probably not too desired. They also mention that lowering increases positive camber, which is also backwards. Lowering increases negative camber.

IMO, it's poorly translated, but that doesn't reflect the product.
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dont get either and wait for the whiteline ones. if you really need it, i'd go with cusco, then stance.
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The bend faces down, so it gives you more shock travel at the same ride height. If you don't have coilovers it will lower the rear more than expected, so probably not too desired. They also mention that lowering increases positive camber, which is also backwards. Lowering increases negative camber.

IMO, it's poorly translated, but that doesn't reflect the product.
I have coilovers.

I dont like cusco.
Their parts are expensive because they are blue
and their rod ends suck and dont last.
CUSCO IS FOR JDM ***S. Quote me on that.

I like the Stance LCAs because they use Aurora rod ends.
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dont get either and wait for the whiteline ones.
Whiteline rear lca are vapourware. I have been told 3 times, approximately 1 month apart, to call back in a month's time.
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Does anyone know if there are any issues in running Stance lower control arms in conjunction with GTSPEC toe rods/trailing arms?

I bolded the important parts.
It seems as if they might clash in design if one lowers and one raises the rear because of the bends in the arm.

I thought they would go together because of these bends but another thread brought it to my attention and I wanted to verify this information before picking up more parts.
THREAD:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33706


From their descriptions:

"GTSPEC rear control arm is used for track or street cars that require rear camber adjustment as a result of coilover installed or wider wheel fitment. In addition to camber adjustment, we redesigned our rear control arm brace to include a +30mm bend.

When cars are lowered it creates a positive camber, which will generate extra stress on the stock control arm. Our new rear control arm is designed with a +30mm bend to compensate for the extra stress that was caused by lowering the vehicle. The +30mm bend is suitable for "1 to 1.5" drop vehicles. A stock control arm or stock like aftermarket control arm is mainly designed to adjust camber only and does not have this added feature.

In addition, we have upgraded the end joints of our control arm to forged 7075 aluminum for extra strength and durability, unlike other competitive products.

*NOTE:*
Not recommended for stock vehicle (non-drop). The rear of the car will be higher than the front."


"Stance Adjustable Lower Control Arms are made from billet aluminum for strength and durability. The Lower Control arms are used to adjust camber and the range achieved with these is negative 1deg - 6deg. Stance also implements Aurora Rod ends on these arms. The most important part of aftermarket suspension links are the rod ends. Aurora spherical rod ends are one of the most expensive and high quality rod ends on the market, and for good reason. Aurora ends are used in both military and NASA Applications, so their quality pretty much speaks for itself.

Stance actually uses Aurora's 3pcs billet rod end bearings to be exact. Aurora bearings use a sintered steel ball to handle extremely high loads. The Rod ends feature special chemical bonded PTFE liners for smooth operation, less noise, and long life. The rod end housings are heat treated and zinc coated for strength and durability as well.

The Stance Lower Control Arms are designed to raise the hub mounting point about 20mm when compared to stock, which lowers the car about 25mm. This allows for longer stroke dampers found on the Stance FR-S application, and have more height adjustment range. This design is especially helpful for 1-way height adjustable coilovers like KW, which lose stroke as you lower the car."

hey did you end up going with the gt spec toe arms? I also have stance suspension.. my gt spec control arms are on the way.? gtt
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