Car and Driver- Scion Test Drive

[TRD_07]

Hi everyone this my first post! I apologize if I posted this wrong its late and I am very tired. The website states an estimated base price of 25k which I think is pricey and a curb weight of 2,800 - 2,900lbs which isn't less than the initial 2,700 as mentioned in another post. Not sure if I read in Car and Driver or Motortrend that the U.S. Scion model will get the full 200hp.


http://www.caranddriver.com/photo-ga...t-drive-review

[TRD_07]

http://m.motortrend.com/roadtests/co...ive/index.html

[Dark]

Originally Posted by TRD_07

Hi everyone this my first post! I apologize if I posted this wrong its late and I am very tired. The website states an estimated base price of 25k which I think is pricey and a curb weight of 2,800 - 2,900lbs which isn't less than the initial 2,700 as mentioned in another post. Not sure if I read in Car and Driver or Motortrend that the U.S. Scion model will get the full 200hp.


http://www.caranddriver.com/photo-ga...t-drive-review

If the info is true, then....
First bold is fail, at least for people who want FR-S. The second bold is even more fail, at least for people living in the US. Third bold is extreme fail, at least for me. I don't give a damn about 200hp vs 197hp.

[old greg]

Those articles are from December.

[Dark]

Originally Posted by old greg

Those articles are from December.

Thanks for clarification. That makes more sense now.

[pkptd447]

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2498

[tripjammer]

Dude the FR-S is 200 HP and around 2700 pounds if you get the 6 speed manual version.

I think the BRZ came in at 2765 pounds, so the FRS will be no heavier than the BRZ.

[pete66]

Originally Posted by TRD_07

Hi everyone this my first post! I apologize if I posted this wrong its late and I am very tired. The website states an estimated base price of 25k which I think is pricey and a curb weight of 2,800 - 2,900lbs which isn't less than the initial 2,700 as mentioned in another post. Not sure if I read in Car and Driver or Motortrend that the U.S. Scion model will get the full 200hp.


http://www.caranddriver.com/photo-ga...t-drive-review

Sweet pics!!

[Re_Invention]

In the latest Car and Driver (with the feature on the new Cobra) there is a preview on the FR-S/BRZ. I can't find it online but the gist was:

*$26,000 est. price
*28xx lbs for manual, I believe
*0-60 in 6 seconds
*21 - 29 mpg
*it drove fantastically almost similar to the dynamics of the first gen. S2000
*BRZ understeers and needs to be provoked to slide, the FRS does it naturally

It was a positive yet luke warm article - praised the cars for their driving dynamics and engine but didn't come off as overly enthusiastic as other journalists are.

[GenkiElite]

Car and driver is the same same rag that critiqued the Viper for the trunk being too small so.......

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by GenkiElite

Car and driver is the same same rag that critiqued the Viper for the trunk being too small so.......

Really? That is funny.

[Re_Invention]

Originally Posted by GenkiElite

Car and driver is the same same rag that critiqued the Viper for the trunk being too small so.......

Well, it probably is! Hahah

I get your point, still, I appreciate automotive journalists pointing out shortcomings of things that may or may not be relevant to the buyer - you may not see the need for some practicality in a Viper (golf bags?) but you probably aren't a prospective buyer - hence your criticism of C&D is just as 'trivial'.

What shocked me was the 0-60 time of 6 seconds flat. C&D do have fast drivers and launch their cars in such an aggressive, abusive manner it'd be irresponsible for an owner to mimic but still.. that's a 1 second difference between them and the rest!

[Capt Canuck]

Originally Posted by TRD_07

http://www.caranddriver.com/photo-ga...t-drive-review

I'm digging the timely 'Competitor Galleries' on the right:
2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT & Spyder GT?

[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by Re_Invention

Well, it probably is! Hahah

I get your point, still, I appreciate automotive journalists pointing out shortcomings of things that may or may not be relevant to the buyer - you may not see the need for some practicality in a Viper (golf bags?) but you probably aren't a prospective buyer - hence your criticism of C&D is just as 'trivial'.

What shocked me was the 0-60 time of 6 seconds flat. C&D do have fast drivers and launch their cars in such an aggressive, abusive manner it'd be irresponsible for an owner to mimic but still.. that's a 1 second difference between them and the rest!

On what basis do you conclude that C&D have faster or fast drivers and launch cars aggressive and abusively?