Koni SA settings for autocross - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

SVThis · 04-05-2013, 10:54 PM

RT class with setup in my signature. I have my first event in the car at Grissom on the 13th. Any feed back for a starting setup on the shock settings would be gretly appreciated. Thanks.

SVThis · 04-07-2013, 09:54 AM

Any one?

KKaWing · 04-07-2013, 01:53 PM

http://www.bimmerhaus.com/tech/shocktuningTN.html

Maybe this will help.

renfield90 · 04-07-2013, 02:15 PM

Welcome to the fun part of owning a relatively new car.

trippinbillies40 · 04-08-2013, 09:18 AM

Welcome to the fun part of developing a new car that LOTS of people are developing and probably don't want to share their setups for.

Kido1986 · 04-08-2013, 09:28 AM

I need to re-measure my settings to confirm these but mine are working well at I believe .5 turns from soft up front and 1.25 from hard in rear.

Note I measured from different ends but that's because I did testing by starting full soft front and full stiff rear.

These likely will need tweaking for your own style, surface, tires and the fact that you use FR-S springs as I did this with a BRZ with different tires in a public parking lot autocross

ViperASR · 04-08-2013, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kido1986

I need to re-measure my settings to confirm these but mine are working well at I believe .5 turns from soft up front and 1.25 from hard in rear.

Note I measured from different ends but that's because I did testing by starting full soft front and full stiff rear.

These likely will need tweaking for your own style, surface, tires and the fact that you use FR-S springs as I did this with a BRZ with different tires in a public parking lot autocross

I think we need to try another approach at the adjustments on your car. After sitting and thinking about it and watching the videos, I think we were too soft up front, and too stiff in the rear.

SVThis · 04-08-2013, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by trippinbillies40

Welcome to the fun part of developing a new car that LOTS of people are developing and probably don't want to share their setups for.

I think you hit the nail on the head

renfield90 · 04-08-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by trippinbillies40

Welcome to the fun part of developing a new car that LOTS of people are developing and probably don't want to share their setups for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SVThis

I think you hit the nail on the head

This is what I wanted to say, but I couldn't find a diplomatic way of saying it - especially since I'm one of those keeping my cards close to my chest (for now, at least - I'm not very well developed anyway, but I may change stances on this later.)

trippinbillies40 · 04-08-2013, 04:58 PM

Yeah, I don't mean to be a **** about it. I come from HS for the past 3 years, where we share EVERYTHING, right down to letting people borrow sway bars to make them legal haha.

But I just spent all Saturday making adjustments to our RTR car. Did 10 runs to make sure we had the course down and had a good baseline, then tuned the car to be 1.1 seconds faster. Not sure I want to show my cards at this point haha.

Best of luck though!

renfield90 · 04-08-2013, 05:13 PM

Yup, I come from a STC/GS background in the Celica. LOTS of information shared, lots of collaboration, not really any secrets. Of course it's an older car, so there's not really any secrets at this point.

SVThis · 04-08-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by trippinbillies40

Yeah, I don't mean to be a **** about it. I come from HS for the past 3 years, where we share EVERYTHING, right down to letting people borrow sway bars to make them legal haha.

But I just spent all Saturday making adjustments to our RTR car. Did 10 runs to make sure we had the course down and had a good baseline, then tuned the car to be 1.1 seconds faster. Not sure I want to show my cards at this point haha.

Best of luck though!

No need for diplomacy. I understand. I haven't had time to do a test and tune yet, but ultimately will. I just thought I'd try to get some feedback to ball park it so I didn't run like a complete buffoon the first time out in the car.

Kido1986 · 04-08-2013, 05:30 PM

I wish others would share their data. I'll be happy to discuss my findings. I think we'll get the car faster, quicker, if we all share data.

TRev · 04-08-2013, 07:12 PM

The way I look at sharing is if someone else can setup their car the same as me and run faster then I wasn't the better driver and don't deserve to win. I know car and setup is part of racing but I would rather compete in a class where it is as much about the driver as possible and not the car.

Kido1986 brings up a good point too...if we want to beat the MS-R cars cooperating will get us there quicker. One of my favorite quotes is, "We can be incrementally better by being competitive though we can be exponentially better by being cooperative."

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