TRD CAI and Exhaust HP Gains

[tennisfreak]

I was just reading this article on Scions Pro Celebrity Race cars including an comments from Chuck Wade (directory of Toyotas Motorsports garage).
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2013...NEWS/130319965

He says

"The engine is completely stock, save for a TRD cold air intake. A bolt-on TRD exhaust rounds out the back, but the midpipe is custom Toyota: a straight pipe with no resonators anywhere and no second catalytic converter. It's purely to sound mean as the cars fly down Shoreline Drive. The cars run on 100-octane race fuel -- there's no performance gain, but it levels out the knock sensors for even running. All together, the exhaust and intake add 11 to 12 horsepower -- "but we just say 10," smiled Wade."

So I would take it that this could be considered fairly reliable information since its coming from Toyota and they have absolutely no desire to embellish the FR-S performance numbers.

Serves as a good baseline for those wondering what they can get from the two most common and easy performance upgrades.

[mach330]

But that's straight pipe too and no second cat.

Tap'd via G-Note2...

[L3P47]

That thing is atrocious. Just my opinion but, if i'm going to install a Cold Air I want it increase room in the engine bay. Not cluster it back up.

[tennisfreak]

Originally Posted by L3P47

That thing is atrocious. Just my opinion but, if i'm going to install a Cold Air I want it increase room in the engine bay. Not cluster it back up.

Bout wouldn't the sheer massive size of the surface area of the new filter help increase air flow?

[L3P47]

Eh, i'd want to see dynos to back it up. I know it's from TRD but, just like any other perfromance product, I want detailed reveiws and dynos to back it up. Just for me though I don't like it. Everyone has their own opinion though.

[LeeMaster]

Originally Posted by tennisfreak

Bout wouldn't the sheer massive size of the surface area of the new filter help increase air flow?

Yeah but he meant it is so massive that you no longer have room to work under your engine..

[FR-S Matt]

No one listens to me... TRD is crap, lol. Been saying it for a long time on these forums and the fanboys all disagree and throw their money at them.

The TRD exhaust is barely bigger than stock in the midpipe section, you won't anything change but the sound.

The intake is much too large and you're better off using the FA20club or Perrin CAI's as they are the best intakes for out of the hood options. (In my opinion)

[naikaidriver]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

No one listens to me... TRD is crap, lol. Been saying it for a long time on these forums and the fanboys all disagree and throw their money at them.

The TRD exhaust is barely bigger than stock in the midpipe section, you won't anything change but the sound.

The intake is much too large and you're better off using the FA20club or Perrin CAI's as they are the best intakes for out of the hood options. (In my opinion)

In addition to everything Matt said, remember this...

The engine will only flow so much air. Period. Once you remove the restrictive, stock filter and replace it with an aftermarket one, you have already relieved nearly 99% of the restriction with a stock airbox. The OEM airbox really IS that well designed! That very large TRD filter will NOT magically make a stock engine flow more air than what it is capable of taking in and neither will any other intake.

Scott

[Clipdat]

Interesting...

"The cars run on 100-octane race fuel -- there's no performance gain, but it levels out the knock sensors for even running."

[wootwoot]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

No one listens to me... TRD is crap, lol. Been saying it for a long time on these forums and the fanboys all disagree and throw their money at them.

The TRD exhaust is barely bigger than stock in the midpipe section, you won't anything change but the sound.

The intake is much too large and you're better off using the FA20club or Perrin CAI's as they are the best intakes for out of the hood options. (In my opinion)

Unfortunately, we are all listening to you. Most of us just chose to ignore you. Every time this intake is brought up you start whining and complaining about it. You don't like TRD. We get it. You have bitched about it in three threads now. And guess what.... We don't care.

Your getting annoying... even for the internet.

[wootwoot]

Originally Posted by Clipdat

Interesting...

"The cars run on 100-octane race fuel -- there's no performance gain, but it levels out the knock sensors for even running."

Agreed. Perhaps we can get a tuner to explain this statement to us because I can't make sense of it.... How can 100 octane not give performance gains? And why is the engine knocking in the first place?

[FR-S Matt]

Originally Posted by wootwoot

Unfortunately, we are all listening to you. Most of us just chose to ignore you. Every time this intake is brought up you start whining and complaining about it. You don't like TRD. We get it. You have bitched about it in three threads now. And guess what.... We don't care.

Your getting annoying... even for the internet.

Cry about it TRD fanboy. At least I'm not wasting money on TRD lettering.

It's you're, not your btw. Welcome to the internet.

[wootwoot]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

Cry about it TRD fanboy. At least I'm not wasting money on TRD lettering.

It's you're, not your btw.

I don't even own anything made by TRD.

Please follow these instructions before your next post:

Step one:

Back on topic: I wonder if he meant 10hp to the crank or the wheels with the full exhaust and intake?

[Trashed675]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

Cry about it TRD fanboy. At least I'm not wasting money on TRD lettering.

It's you're, not your btw. Welcome to the internet.

Originally Posted by wootwoot

I don't even own anything made by TRD.

Please follow these instructions before your next post:

Step one:

Back on topic: I wonder if he meant 10hp to the crank or the wheels with the full exhaust and intake?

Now now children, you play nice.