i suck at vinyl :( (crystal black silica + redout vinyls) - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

kertong · 02-26-2013, 08:25 PM

it looks ok from 3-4 feet away, but up close there are tons of little bubbles and wrinkes/runs.

Think I'll peel them off and go with the VHT nightshades redout spray instead..

raul · 02-26-2013, 08:32 PM

I haven't used VHT because of cracking. Beware.

kertong · 02-26-2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by raul

I haven't used VHT because of cracking. Beware.

oh shoot, that's a good point. thanks. is that common? I read that it cracks if you've sprayed too much on, but.. ymmv I guess. thanks for the tip!

raul · 02-26-2013, 08:37 PM

Saw one myself at a meet. Say you get some cracking and condensation starts on your tail light. They might deny warranty work because of it. Vinyl at least you can peel off.

Laika · 02-26-2013, 10:02 PM

What vinyls are these? Are they premium auto styling? Something looks iffy about them and it's not just the fact that only the face appears to be covered.

My suggestion; blue bat overlays + professional install if you don't feel up for it. Otherwise, a proper heat gun (or hot air gun for soldering) will help a LOT.

Here's a link to my tails, I LOVE them. Pretty much the only option I'm 100% sold on short of the Grazio tails.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=480823

kertong · 02-26-2013, 10:17 PM

Fantastic, thank you Laika! Yeah, these are the premium auto styling ones and I was surprised with that too - it doesn't wrap around and leaves the sides clear. Just a flat 2D cutout.

I'll give yours a try, and I'll definitely get it done professionally this time

Had no idea vinyl could be this tricky to work with.

Laika · 02-26-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kertong

Fantastic, thank you Laika! Yeah, these are the premium auto styling ones and I was surprised with that too - it doesn't wrap around and leaves the sides clear. Just a flat 2D cutout.

I'll give yours a try, and I'll definitely get it done professionally this time

Had no idea vinyl could be this tricky to work with.

It is a bit tricky but you and I both made a mistake of learning to vinyl on a difficult part. If you want some practice (and want a different look) you can try to vinyl the dash plastics. Start with the simple large one in front of the passenger seat and then go to the headunit surround. It was a good practice for me.

xDBOYx · 02-26-2013, 11:56 PM

Comes with practice. And it looks pretty good for a first attempt on a hard area.

ThugNasty · 02-27-2013, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by raul

Saw one myself at a meet. Say you get some cracking and condensation starts on your tail light. They might deny warranty work because of it. Vinyl at least you can peel off.

I'm pretty sure the chance of cracking is the same, if not greater with vinyl.
Also VHT is removable with lacquer thinner, goo gone, etc.

Here's mine lightly smoked with VHT:

slates74 · 02-27-2013, 03:44 PM

Try running over them with a credit card and a hair dryer on low heat

Mr.Jay · 02-27-2013, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by raul

Saw one myself at a meet. Say you get some cracking and condensation starts on your tail light. They might deny warranty work because of it. Vinyl at least you can peel off.

I had my original ones sprayed with VHT and did not get denied warranty for my tails (on my 3rd set now and need them replaced again) because I could prove that lots of people where having these problems without VHT and they couldn't prove that the vht caused the problem

raul · 02-27-2013, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Jay

I had my original ones sprayed with VHT and did not get denied warranty for my tails (on my 3rd set now and need them replaced again) because I could prove that lots of people where having these problems without VHT and they couldn't prove that the vht caused the problem

For condensation they probably won't deny warranty, but for cracking I doubt they'll replace them.

norsamerican · 02-27-2013, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by raul

For condensation they probably won't deny warranty, but for cracking I doubt they'll replace them.

are there actually photos and people saying that they crack on the frs/brz lights or is that all rumor?

husker741 · 02-27-2013, 05:14 PM

It really amazes me how many people don't like the stock look of the taillights. I love it.

02-26-2013, 08:25 PM	#1
kertong Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited / 2009 Boxster S Location: Dublin, CA Posts: 25 Thanks: 12 Thanked 16 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i suck at vinyl :( (crystal black silica + redout vinyls) it looks ok from 3-4 feet away, but up close there are tons of little bubbles and wrinkes/runs. Think I'll peel them off and go with the VHT nightshades redout spray instead..

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Laika When In Doubt... Join Date: May 2011 Drives: Slowww Location: PA215 Posts: 1,844 Thanks: 1,023 Thanked 752 Times in 412 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What vinyls are these? Are they premium auto styling? Something looks iffy about them and it's not just the fact that only the face appears to be covered. My suggestion; blue bat overlays + professional install if you don't feel up for it. Otherwise, a proper heat gun (or hot air gun for soldering) will help a LOT. Here's a link to my tails, I LOVE them. Pretty much the only option I'm 100% sold on short of the Grazio tails. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=480823 __________________ Join the Galaxy Blue Silica BRZ registry below: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...2c&usp=sharing

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kertong Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited / 2009 Boxster S Location: Dublin, CA Posts: 25 Thanks: 12 Thanked 16 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Fantastic, thank you Laika! Yeah, these are the premium auto styling ones and I was surprised with that too - it doesn't wrap around and leaves the sides clear. Just a flat 2D cutout. I'll give yours a try, and I'll definitely get it done professionally this time Had no idea vinyl could be this tricky to work with.

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