I'm Stuck In A Dilemma - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ALbadboy · 02-23-2013, 01:54 PM

Alright as some of you may know, My FR-S was totaled by a lady pulling out in front of me as I was going through an intersection. Well, I've decided to get a WRB BRZ Limited Manuel to replace it. It was so hard to find one, but finally I found one coming in 600 miles away. Which worked out great, because I was going up that way the same weekend after it arrives (March 11th) at the dealership up there. That dealership is selling me the car at $29.3k.

Well by stuck of luck or whatever it is, someone traded a WRB BRZ Limited Manuel to my local dealership. The car has 1,5xx miles and was built in 07/12. Supposedly it was owned by an old man who says he didnt like it.. and judging by the miles, I believe them. My local dealer at first wanted MSRP for it and I told them to shove it. I did ask, "how about take $1000 off the price and then we can talk." But they told me no. Of course though, 4 days later I received a call this morning offering me the car at $27.3k.

What do you guys think? Should I try to get the price lowered? Would it be best to get a new car vs one that needed recalls? I'll have to search the recalls, because I want to make sure those are done to the car before if I buy.
I'm just not sure what would be best at this point.

Gary in NJ · 02-23-2013, 02:03 PM

I wouldn't worry about any recalls or SB's...the car is under warranty and SoA is obligated to keep the car current.

Unfortunately you have already shown the local dealer your hand by offering to purchase this car for $1,000 less then MSRP. I don't think you'll get far with a counter-counter offer. Personally, I would have started at $25k firm...walked away...and let them counter. You've already agreed to $28.3k.

For the $1,000 difference, go get the new one.

2pt5RS · 02-23-2013, 02:04 PM

There are no recalls on the car. There are TSBs, which are only replaced when the problem is occurring. I have no hesitation about buying the used one now versus waiting. Even if you have to have the TSBs taken care of, they should give you a loaner, just confirm that with them before you drop it off. When I had a couple of the TSBs fixed, I waited until they were all showing the issue so the dealer would take care of them all at once. In my case, it took them 3 days to fix everything, so I was guaranteed a loaner.

Iixii · 02-23-2013, 02:06 PM

Get the brand new one. No question about it. If it's like $3k or more then I'll get the used one. There's still pride, yes priDe, in getting a new one.

whaap · 02-23-2013, 02:08 PM

The fact it was driven by an old man doesn't mean a thing. I'm an old man and you have no idea how well I followed the break-in guidelines for the first 1,000 miles. If you've been on this forum for a bit you will see that the twins attract many aggressive drivers who drive their cars "like they stole" them. If that doesn't cause you second thought, go ahead and buy it. I would buy a new one.

Mobius357 · 02-23-2013, 02:10 PM

I'd say let someone else pay new car price for a used car. $1000 will make very little difference to your monthly payment.

stilletto · 02-23-2013, 02:17 PM

Purchase the NEW car. Regardless of price, there's always some sort of satisfaction knowing that you're the very first owner. Plus, these cars are in such high demand, dealers aren't willing to haggle much.

naikaidriver · 02-23-2013, 02:18 PM

You had better jump on that one!

Roll Tide!

Scott

Subie · 02-23-2013, 02:19 PM

Guys, stop destroying my resale value!

Rampage · 02-23-2013, 02:22 PM

I would not hesitate to buy a used one with those kind of miles on it but not at that price. It is used therefore it has been hit with the "drive it off the lot" depreciation. That would be a minimum of 15% even for a car that is in high demand. I would offer them $26K knowing that I could buy a brand new FR-S for $25K. There are used cars on this forum right now for under $22K.

Flat Black VW · 02-23-2013, 02:23 PM

Id say its worth the wait to get a new one, especially if you plan to keep this car for more than just a couple years. Who knows how that car was driven in the first 1000 miles and its nice to know you took care of your car from the start IMO.

SVThis · 02-23-2013, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naikaidriver

You had better jump on that one!

Roll Tide!

Scott

Parole Tide! Go Irish!

Accurate Race Shop · 02-23-2013, 02:36 PM

I think that the used one is over priced. I would probably go with the new one unless they came down another $1K or $2K on the used one and offered some maintenance with it as well. But an extra $2k will buy you some parts if you plan on modding it and are not worried about the break in period. All depends on how good of a deal it is for you.

xDBOYx · 02-23-2013, 02:52 PM

I would purchase the new. The difference in price will not make a huge impact on ur monthly. I would never pay close to sticker for a used car.

02-23-2013, 01:54 PM	#1
ALbadboy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited (WRB MT) Location: Mobile, Alabama Posts: 146 Thanks: 19 Thanked 62 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I'm Stuck In A Dilemma Alright as some of you may know, My FR-S was totaled by a lady pulling out in front of me as I was going through an intersection. Well, I've decided to get a WRB BRZ Limited Manuel to replace it. It was so hard to find one, but finally I found one coming in 600 miles away. Which worked out great, because I was going up that way the same weekend after it arrives (March 11th) at the dealership up there. That dealership is selling me the car at $29.3k. Well by stuck of luck or whatever it is, someone traded a WRB BRZ Limited Manuel to my local dealership. The car has 1,5xx miles and was built in 07/12. Supposedly it was owned by an old man who says he didnt like it.. and judging by the miles, I believe them. My local dealer at first wanted MSRP for it and I told them to shove it. I did ask, "how about take $1000 off the price and then we can talk." But they told me no. Of course though, 4 days later I received a call this morning offering me the car at $27.3k. What do you guys think? Should I try to get the price lowered? Would it be best to get a new car vs one that needed recalls? I'll have to search the recalls, because I want to make sure those are done to the car before if I buy. I'm just not sure what would be best at this point. Last edited by ALbadboy; 02-23-2013 at 02:11 PM.

02-23-2013, 02:18 PM	#8
naikaidriver Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S AT Asphalt Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 770 Thanks: 145 Thanked 673 Times in 289 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You had better jump on that one! Roll Tide! Scott __________________

02-23-2013, 02:22 PM	#10
Rampage Senior Member/Old Fanboi Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2000 2ZZ-GE MR2 Spyder HT Location: Back home in Ohio now Posts: 2,446 Thanks: 1,931 Thanked 2,014 Times in 915 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I would not hesitate to buy a used one with those kind of miles on it but not at that price. It is used therefore it has been hit with the "drive it off the lot" depreciation. That would be a minimum of 15% even for a car that is in high demand. I would offer them $26K knowing that I could buy a brand new FR-S for $25K. There are used cars on this forum right now for under $22K. __________________ So many modders have more cents than sense!

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02-23-2013, 02:03 PM	#2
Gary in NJ Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: WR Blue BRZ, 240Z Location: Amongst the twisty roads Posts: 587 Thanks: 21 Thanked 412 Times in 206 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I wouldn't worry about any recalls or SB's...the car is under warranty and SoA is obligated to keep the car current. Unfortunately you have already shown the local dealer your hand by offering to purchase this car for $1,000 less then MSRP. I don't think you'll get far with a counter-counter offer. Personally, I would have started at $25k firm...walked away...and let them counter. You've already agreed to $28.3k. For the $1,000 difference, go get the new one.

02-23-2013, 02:04 PM	#3
2pt5RS Berz Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: -=ATL=- Posts: 707 Thanks: 281 Thanked 294 Times in 158 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There are no recalls on the car. There are TSBs, which are only replaced when the problem is occurring. I have no hesitation about buying the used one now versus waiting. Even if you have to have the TSBs taken care of, they should give you a loaner, just confirm that with them before you drop it off. When I had a couple of the TSBs fixed, I waited until they were all showing the issue so the dealer would take care of them all at once. In my case, it took them 3 days to fix everything, so I was guaranteed a loaner.

02-23-2013, 02:06 PM	#4
Iixii Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: NonE Location: NoVa Posts: 79 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Get the brand new one. No question about it. If it's like $3k or more then I'll get the used one. There's still pride, yes priDe, in getting a new one.

02-23-2013, 02:08 PM	#5
whaap Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Drives: '13 FR-S firestorm, 6 mt - '11 CR-V Location: Tucson Posts: 2,133 Thanks: 243 Thanked 1,387 Times in 657 Posts Mentioned: 36 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The fact it was driven by an old man doesn't mean a thing. I'm an old man and you have no idea how well I followed the break-in guidelines for the first 1,000 miles. If you've been on this forum for a bit you will see that the twins attract many aggressive drivers who drive their cars "like they stole" them. If that doesn't cause you second thought, go ahead and buy it. I would buy a new one.

02-23-2013, 02:10 PM	#6
Mobius357 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: '15 WRX '13 Legacy '07 Colorado Location: Seacoast NH Posts: 337 Thanks: 10 Thanked 118 Times in 82 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'd say let someone else pay new car price for a used car. $1000 will make very little difference to your monthly payment.

02-23-2013, 02:17 PM	#7
stilletto Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2008 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 137 Thanks: 1 Thanked 39 Times in 26 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Purchase the NEW car. Regardless of price, there's always some sort of satisfaction knowing that you're the very first owner. Plus, these cars are in such high demand, dealers aren't willing to haggle much.

02-23-2013, 02:19 PM	#9
Subie Señor Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2013 SSM DZE BRZ Location: SC Posts: 947 Thanks: 728 Thanked 405 Times in 196 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Guys, stop destroying my resale value!

02-23-2013, 02:23 PM	#11
Flat Black VW Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Location: NOVA Posts: 894 Thanks: 227 Thanked 343 Times in 202 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Id say its worth the wait to get a new one, especially if you plan to keep this car for more than just a couple years. Who knows how that car was driven in the first 1000 miles and its nice to know you took care of your car from the start IMO.

02-23-2013, 02:52 PM	#14
xDBOYx Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ Limited Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 596 Thanks: 0 Thanked 144 Times in 120 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I would purchase the new. The difference in price will not make a huge impact on ur monthly. I would never pay close to sticker for a used car.

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