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Old 02-18-2013, 10:57 PM   #1
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Engine oil standard operating temperature

I've looked through the manuals but I can't find the recommend max operating temps. Trying to understand when I should be concerned when tracking the car.

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When the engine oil temp climbs up to 100 degree celcius, you start to lose power.

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I believe normal is between 90-100C. I would start worrying if it gets above 120C and seriously consider getting an oil cooler.
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mine usually sits around 200F depending on outside temps, and revs. but 200F +-10F
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mine usually sits around 200F depending on outside temps, and revs. but 200F +-10F
On the street I assume?

On track I'd guess the stock car is 270-300 all day long based on similar cars.
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On the street I assume?

On track I'd guess the stock car is 270-300 all day long based on similar cars.
Is this what you experienced while tracking your car?
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Is this what you experienced while tracking your car?
Give these a read:

Measurements and necessity of an oil cooler

Data with forced induction on a twin
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I live in socal and average daily driving from home to work or back home its anywhere from 190-210F. On track that Ive tracked 3 times average is 240-250F
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Op, if I can borrow your thread for a second....can anyone direct me to a how-to for installing oil temp/pressure gauge??
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Same question as above. On the block there is one space for a sensor. other sensor will go below the oil filter in a sandwich. So which sensor on which position?
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According to dash command my avg dd temp is 170f and 190f on the track. I have an oil cooler, upgraded radiator and all the goodies that come with
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I've looked through the manuals but I can't find the recommend max operating temps. Trying to understand when I should be concerned when tracking the car.

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depends what oil viscosity your using.

this summarizes it pretty well

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cDfFJ5s6IDg"]FRS - BRZ Oil Pressure and Temperature Tech FA20 - YouTube[/ame]

Data from video
You want to keep above about 40psi at high rpm

so if your running 0w20 once temps get to 225F you starting to get into that low 40psi range.

STREET TEMPS
0W20 Redline

0w20 Redline 185F @ 800RPM 10PSI Oil Pressure
0w20 Redline 185F @ 2000RPM 35PSI Oil Pressure
0w20 Redline 185F @ 4000RPM 54PSI Oil Pressure
0w20 Redline 185F @ 7000RPM 65PSI Oil Pressure

10W30 Redline

10w30 Redline 185F @ 800RPM 19PSI Oil Pressure
10w30 Redline 185F @ 2000RPM 51PSI Oil Pressure
10w30 Redline 185F @ 4000RPM 65PSI Oil Pressure
10w30 Redline 185F @ 7000RPM 83PSI Oil Pressure

10W40 Redline

10w40 Redline 185F @ 800RPM 25PSI Oil Pressure
10w40 Redline 185F @ 2000RPM 64PSI Oil Pressure
10w40 Redline 185F @ 4000RPM 78PSI Oil Pressure
10w40 Redline 185F @ 7000RPM 91PSI Oil Pressure


TRACK TEMPS AFTER 9 LAPS @ 1 Minute 15 Seconds Per Lap
0W20 Redline

0w20 Redline 225F @ 800RPM 7PSI Oil Pressure
0w20 Redline 225F @ 2000RPM 30PSI Oil Pressure
0w20 Redline 225F @ 4000RPM 48PSI Oil Pressure
0w20 Redline 225F @ 7000RPM 43PSI Oil Pressure


10W30 Redline

10w30 Redline 245F @ 800RPM 7PSI Oil Pressure
10w30 Redline 245F @ 2000RPM 35PSI Oil Pressure
10w30 Redline 245F @ 4000RPM 52PSI Oil Pressure
10w30 Redline 245F @ 7000RPM 46PSI Oil Pressure

10W40 Redline (12 Laps)

10w40 Redline 265F @ 800RPM 8PSI Oil Pressure
10w40 Redline 265F @ 2000RPM 31PSI Oil Pressure
10w40 Redline 265F @ 4000RPM 55PSI Oil Pressure
10w40 Redline 265F @ 7000RPM 45PSI Oil Pressure
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:34 PM   #14
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I easily could hit 270F (100% stock) after a day of tracking in 80F weather. This was with 10min~avg sessions with 15min cooldowns between drives... rinse and repeat as many time until sun-down.

The car will start to pull timing after the oil hits 220F.

Before tracking her, go switch to a heavier oil. 0w20 is fine for daily grinds but, it loose's it's pressure when it gets past 240F.
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