follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Engine, Exhaust, Transmission

Engine, Exhaust, Transmission Discuss the FR-S | 86 | BRZ engine, exhaust and drivetrain.

Register and become an FT86Club.com member. You will see fewer ads

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-09-2013, 01:30 AM   #1
Rabble
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: Asphalt FR-S
Location: USA
Posts: 457
Thanks: 6
Thanked 110 Times in 51 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
CAUTION: Drop in Air Filter Install

Just a heads up for all of you who have installed drop in air filters, I was doing some head scratching trying to get the damn airbox to click back together and I couldn't quite get everything to line up. I searched in the owners manual and thought it was weird that there wasn't instructions for replacing the air filter. I assumed that if it wasn't in the manual then it was slightly more involved than a simple drop in replacement...

It turns out that if you aren't careful you could close the metal clips on top of the airbox yet not have a true seal. If you press on the top of the airbox you can look to the underside and see the two halves of the airbox separating.

There shouldn't be any bending or flexing of the sides of the airbox, everything should sit flat and flush. The plastic teeth on the sides of the airbox should not touch or be pressing against each other.

I had to take the whole airbox assembly off just to get the two halves to sit securely. This involves removing three bolts.

One bolt is on the front side of the actual airbox.
One bolt is on some plastic box thing that sticks out of the left side of the airbox.
One bolt is on a plastic arm on the rear bottom right of the airbox.

All three of these bolts are 10mm.

Once you remove the bolts you just slide the airbox assembly out of the snorkel. This gives you much more leverage to securely close the airbox and make sure there is no play in the fitment. Slide the airbox back around the foam on the snorkel and rebolt. (I'm not sure if that is the correct way to replace the snorkel, but it is on the dirty side of the air filter so at least your engine will be getting clean air regardless of the snorkel situation)

You will know that your airbox is sealed correctly because the two halves will not move or give any play. (the airbox itself will move, but the two halves will stay completely sealed)

This might be general knowledge but I was reading some people say that they just forced their aftermarket filter to fit. I want you to know that just because you forced the metal clips back onto the airbox doesn't really mean that the airbox is secure.

If there is enough interest, I can take some pictures of the process.
Rabble is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Rabble For This Useful Post:
elrod (02-09-2013), F1point4 (09-30-2013), RehabJeff86 (05-26-2013), Sportsguy83 (02-09-2013), tripjammer (02-12-2013)
Old 02-09-2013, 08:02 AM   #2
roddy
Senior Member
 
roddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: '13 Ultramarine
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 2,243
Thanks: 1,476
Thanked 1,165 Times in 685 Posts
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
It could also depend on the filter that is used. When inspecting the stock filter, I had no problem getting the airbox back together. After installing the TRD filter (thicker flange), it was a pain in the ass to line up the two halves properly.
__________________
no man with a good car needs to be justified...
roddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2013, 08:06 AM   #3
mad_sb
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Drives: 2013 Asphalt FR-S
Location: Orange County
Posts: 1,639
Thanks: 632
Thanked 982 Times in 537 Posts
Mentioned: 100 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
handy tip The Evo X airbox was very similar and had the same issue... used to cause all sorts of wonky maf readings from time to time as the filter and lid shifted around and allowed air to sneak around the filter.
__________________
mad_sb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2013, 09:38 AM   #4
Rabble
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: Asphalt FR-S
Location: USA
Posts: 457
Thanks: 6
Thanked 110 Times in 51 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by roddy View Post
It could also depend on the filter that is used. When inspecting the stock filter, I had no problem getting the airbox back together. After installing the TRD filter (thicker flange), it was a pain in the ass to line up the two halves properly.
I had problems putting the stock filter back too, thats when I knew 100% I was doing something wrong.
Rabble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2013, 03:56 PM   #5
SportInjected
Senior Member
 
SportInjected's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: for the sake of driving
Location: Windy City
Posts: 538
Thanks: 249
Thanked 137 Times in 112 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Good point OP, I had to take off the air box when installing the perrin drop-in, but wasted half an hour trying to get it to close properly prior to that.
__________________
'13 Argento FR-S
SportInjected is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2013, 05:12 PM   #6
AVOturboworld
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Drives: 2013 "AVO Orange" FR-S
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,067
Thanks: 69
Thanked 2,277 Times in 636 Posts
Mentioned: 108 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Also keep in mind that the filter itself has to go in a specific way. There are two indentations on one side of the filter (and should be on most aftermarket filters) that are matched up to the air box itself. Even though it's a rectangle, if you get it upside down, it won't fit properly.
AVOturboworld is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to AVOturboworld For This Useful Post:
Phaedrus29 (03-01-2013), Sportsguy83 (02-09-2013), tripjammer (02-12-2013)
Old 03-01-2013, 03:18 AM   #7
Phaedrus29
Senior Member
 
Phaedrus29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ
Location: PA
Posts: 683
Thanks: 106
Thanked 248 Times in 133 Posts
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by AVOturboworld View Post
Also keep in mind that the filter itself has to go in a specific way. There are two indentations on one side of the filter (and should be on most aftermarket filters) that are matched up to the air box itself. Even though it's a rectangle, if you get it upside down, it won't fit properly.

Yes, I recently installed my K&N drop in and while I clearly had it facing in the right direction (toward the front), I first installed it upside down and I don't think it was making a proper seal. I flipped it upside down and now it fits easily and flushly. I think there might be a larger corner that needs to go to the bottom/passenger-side for the filter to fit properly. Please correct me if I'm wrong!

Here is a pic of the filter:



You can see that that corner is different from the others. Again, I think this corner should go to the bottom/passenger-side. Maybe this is all super obvious, but I actually put mine in upside down at first and was able to close the air box clips. So just make sure you have it in right, because it seems to fit much better now!

Last edited by Phaedrus29; 03-01-2013 at 03:37 AM.
Phaedrus29 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Phaedrus29 For This Useful Post:
microbionic (03-01-2013)
Old 03-01-2013, 07:28 PM   #8
Xdragonxb0i
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: ex500r
Location: AR
Posts: 859
Thanks: 13
Thanked 105 Times in 77 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I broke one of the clips trying to get the seal. I still don't think I got it. I may have to pull out the whole box out
__________________
Xdragonxb0i is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2013, 07:57 PM   #9
JoeBoxer
Senior Member
 
JoeBoxer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: Whiteout FR-S
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 4,154
Thanks: 1,666
Thanked 1,627 Times in 997 Posts
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xdragonxb0i View Post
I broke one of the clips trying to get the seal. I still don't think I got it. I may have to pull out the whole box out
You have to make sure the bottom pegs are lined up first before you try to close the top. It is a lot easier with the tube disconnected or airbox removed.
JoeBoxer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2013, 09:56 PM   #10
greighn
Member
 
greighn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: Scion FR-S
Location: Exton, PA
Posts: 53
Thanks: 8
Thanked 23 Times in 9 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I wound up breaking the bottom bracket trying to get the thing closed. I was installing a Zeta dry stage 2 filter. I think I got it closed ok, though.

-Gary.

Last edited by greighn; 03-03-2013 at 01:28 AM.
greighn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2013, 01:28 AM   #11
_hollywood
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Drives: 97 itr sold
Location: WI
Posts: 565
Thanks: 183
Thanked 165 Times in 98 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Is there a thin red line exposed all around the filter when closed? My trd drop in is facing the correct direction and the clips on top closed but i can see the outline of the red surrounding the box when closed......weird
__________________
FR-S #56 of 86 Raven MT ***FOR SALE***
_hollywood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2013, 10:40 AM   #12
gily25
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: Silica BRZ 6MT
Location: 06103
Posts: 650
Thanks: 97
Thanked 115 Times in 92 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I found this especially frustrating with the Apexi because of the plastic flanges on the edge. I finally got it back together at the same time the wife found this thread...our Evo and our current lancer were a pain too but this is way worse. I better get my advertised 5 hp lol!
gily25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2013, 06:11 AM   #13
SilverStreak'13
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S (Argento, 6MT)
Location: Sylvania, OH
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Hmmmm.... Maybe I just got extremely lucky with my K&N drop-in last week, as I had no problems getting everything to fit back together in one shot.....
SilverStreak'13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2013, 09:18 AM   #14
m.wood0213
Driving Enthusiast
 
m.wood0213's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited
Location: Burleson, TX
Posts: 837
Thanks: 83
Thanked 158 Times in 118 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
this is part of the reason why i decided to go w/ an intake. even if it IS slower. much easier to maintain.
__________________
“This isn’t a supercar, it’s a sports car. It sacrifices rear seats yes but it just feels alive. Pure, direct, immediate. The other two are going to get all the admiring looks yes, that’s my point. I’m not driving around in this for other people’s benefit. I’m driving around in this BECAUSE I LOVE DRIVING IT. END!”
-Richard Hammond, Top Gear, USA Supercar Road Trip, 2011 Porsche GT3 RS.
My BRZ
m.wood0213 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The Best Drop in Air Filter? FT-86- Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 46 06-05-2014 08:54 AM
Drop-in Filter huma Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 33 02-07-2013 03:47 AM
FS: Perrin drop in filter SubaSteve Engine, Exhaust, Bolt-Ons 4 01-21-2013 01:04 PM
FS: K&N Drop-in Filter DookDookDGM Engine, Exhaust, Bolt-Ons 4 01-19-2013 02:45 AM
Drop In filter test! Stock, Apexi, No filter RallySport Direct Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 14 06-25-2012 03:40 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.