HELP:Q about springs

[Obja]

Okay so which springs can make my car the lowest possible without "camber" or whatever it's called.

I'm not exactly in the market for coil overs yet and i want my car as low as possible.

So it would be a lot of help if someone could link me to some springs that would make my car that low.

Or how much in inches drop do i need to achieve that would be cool as well.

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE <3

i searched "lowest springs" etc. nothing useful came up so dont rage on me please.

[Dave-ROR]

This link (also the very first sticky thread in this forum!) will list the various options with the amount of lowering the manufacturer advertises it at: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8739

Because of the design of the rear suspension, you will get more negative camber by lowering the car, period. The lower you go, the more it will increase. The front won't change much at all by lowering.

You can get some kits to help remove that negative camber in the back, but people tend to want more (within reason) up front.

Currently the biggest drop from a lowering spring would be the Eibach Sportlines with 1.4" of drop.

Are you sure you really want to go crazy low?

[Obja]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

This link (also the very first sticky thread in this forum!) will list the various options with the amount of lowering the manufacturer advertises it at: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8739

Because of the design of the rear suspension, you will get more negative camber by lowering the car, period. The lower you go, the more it will increase. The front won't change much at all by lowering.

You can get some kits to help remove that negative camber in the back, but people tend to want more (within reason) up front.

Currently the biggest drop from a lowering spring would be the Eibach Sportlines with 1.4" of drop.

Are you sure you really want to go crazy low?

Thanks first off!

Can you explain exactly what negative camber does and why it's so bad?

sorry :p

[switchlanez]

Do Sportlines if you really really want to increase your chances of scraping your front lip. :p

I'm on 0.6" drop with aftermarket lip and already scrape off my driveway and places in town I go everyday... and the flat prairie-land where I live is nothing compared to places I used to live in California!

Edit: I see you're in STL. Well, I would recommend 20mm drop... the Pro-Kit is just a bit lower than that at 25mm. According to a PM convo I had with Chief Engineer Tada, the suspension (arms, roll center, etc.) are optimized for 20mm +/-5mm lower than stock. Anything lower would be detrimental for handling but if you prefer lower, hey, it's your car. I'd feel more confident running Sportlines once aftermarket lowering shocks come out to accomodate them.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Obja

Thanks first off!

Can you explain exactly what negative camber does and why it's so bad?

sorry :p

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+negative+camber%3F

I never said it was bad.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

Do Sportlines if you really really want to increase your chances of scraping your front lip. :p

I'm on 0.6" drop with aftermarket lip and already scrape off my driveway and places in town I go everyday... and the flat prairie-land where I live is nothing compared to places I used to live in California!

After 3,500 miles my lip is scratch free with the Sportlines, except for where the Subaru dealership in Ohio scratched it driving in onto the rack withour 2x4s!

[Obja]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

Do Sportlines if you really really want to increase your chances of scraping your front lip. :p

I'm on 0.6" drop with aftermarket lip and already scrape off my driveway and places in town I go everyday... and the flat prairie-land where I live is nothing compared to places I used to live in California!

Edit: I see you're in STL. Well, I would recommend 20mm drop... the Pro-Kit is just a bit lower than that at 25mm. According to a PM convo I had with Chief Engineer Tada, the suspension (arms, roll center, etc.) are optimized for 20mm +/-5mm lower than stock. Anything lower would be detrimental for handling but if you prefer lower, hey, it's your car. I'd feel more confident running Sportlines once aftermarket lowering shocks come out to accomodate them.

So in other words the Eibach Sportlines with 1.4" drop or 35mm would be a BAD idea? in a practical sense...

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by Obja

So in other words the Eibach Sportlines with 1.4" drop or 35mm would be a BAD idea? in a practical sense...

Not necessarily BAD especially if just for everyday driving. Just not optimized. Many people won't care for optimization. I just obssess over little facts like these sometimes and let them influence my personal preferences.

[Obja]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

Not necessarily BAD especially if just for everyday driving. Just not optimized. Many people won't care for optimization. I just obssess over little facts like these sometimes and they influence my personal preferences.

Uhm whats the difference between daily driving and optimized?


BTW I ALREADY GOOGLED IT XD

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by Obja

So in other words the Eibach Sportlines with 1.4" drop or 35mm would be a BAD idea? in a practical sense...

Have you ever had a lowered vehicle before? Do you plan on changing wheels and tires too?

If the answer to both of these is no i would suggest the Pro-Kit or something similar. The Sportline is going to give you a lot of rear camber if you don't get something to adjust it with which i don't think you want to do from your previous posts.

[Obja]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

Have you ever had a lowered vehicle before? Do you plan on changing wheels and tires too?

If the answer to both of these is no i would suggest the Pro-Kit or something similar. The Sportline is going to give you a lot of rear camber if you don't get something to adjust it with which i don't think you want to do from your previous posts.

First car man, im 17...

and yes i plan on changing the wheels but not sure if i should invest in wheels or lower my car first

[Dave-ROR]

What's your actual goals with the car? What do you use the car for? What things are unacceptable to you as a result of modifying the vehicle?

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by Obja

First car man, im 17...

and yes i plan on changing the wheels but not sure if i should invest in wheels or lower my car first

I would drive it for a few months and then decide, I really would say the Pro-Kit would be better for a teenager or no lowering at all. Just be careful either way you go, watch for curbs and bumps and don't turn off the traction control!

[Obja]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

What's your actual goals with the car? What do you use the car for? What things are unacceptable to you as a result of modifying the vehicle?

Daily drive nothing fancy mate.

As of goals i plan to get all my bolt ons, HID kit, lower it, and then new wheels.

And then im done.

Unacceptable would be like a camber kit or something, it just doesnt fit the personality of the car in my opinion.

http://www.stancenation.com/wp-conte...331-204607.jpg

^ looks awesome! but it's just not for me