Does CAI brand matter or just the filter?

[ngabdala]

I have a buddy that has modded cars and currently works for New York Transit as a mechanic for buses.

He suggests I buy the cheapest CAI I find on Ebay and to switch out the filter with a quality one. He says it's not the CAI brand that matters, it's the filter. I was going to pre-order the AfE Takeda for $367 but now I'm hesitant to.

Anyone know if this is true?

[mike2100]

Originally Posted by ngabdala

Anyone know if this is true?

Unless you've swapped in a bus engine I'd say unlikely.

[ngabdala]

Lol. My friend has modded his cars. He's a good mechanic car or bus

And, alot of people make their own intakes. Maybe he's right. As long as there is a tight-seal that is.

Originally Posted by mike2100

Unless you've swapped in a bus engine I'd say unlikely.

[FT-86 SpeedFactory]

There is a difference between intakes. Tube deigns, where it's pulling air from, fit and finish, and etc. Not all are alike. Sure there is a basic concept but there are differences.

[Superhatch]

If the run is the same it will likely be close. Some of the higher end intake mfgs will put a thermal paint on their tubes vs. the bare ones you see and they claim that this helps reduce heat transfer.

[20valvewynn83]

Originally Posted by ngabdala

I have a buddy that has modded cars and currently works for New York Transit as a mechanic for buses.

He suggests I buy the cheapest CAI I find on Ebay and to switch out the filter with a quality one. He says it's not the CAI brand that matters, it's the filter. I was going to pre-order the AfE Takeda for $367 but now I'm hesitant to.

Anyone know if this is true?

Ok this is the reality! So far cold air intakes dynos show about a 7hp gain and that's pretty weak compared to the 5hp gains that a drop in filter makes (per dyno testing). People can think they know what they are talking about (most the time its people who have never had a car tunes) but you gain more hp by altering the part of the air box before the filter, the use of a velocity stack with some type of ram air entry to the air box will help most with a drop in filter. I also like to use silicon hoses from the throttle body to the air box to make a smoother flow with less heat soak to keep the engine temperature down.

[ngabdala]

Based on the 7hp "pretty weak" dyno results on the CAIs would you recommend I hold off on buying one until there are better performing ones?

I'm interested in the aFe Takeda CAI which produced +9hp +10tq

http://afepower.com/shop/details_new...ily&brandID=78

Originally Posted by 20valvewynn83

Ok this is the reality! So far cold air intakes dynos show about a 7hp gain and that's pretty weak compared to the 5hp gains that a drop in filter makes (per dyno testing). People can think they know what they are talking about (most the time its people who have never had a car tunes) but you gain more hp by altering the part of the air box before the filter, the use of a velocity stack with some type of ram air entry to the air box will help most with a drop in filter. I also like to use silicon hoses from the throttle body to the air box to make a smoother flow with less heat soak to keep the engine temperature down.

[20valvewynn83]

Originally Posted by ngabdala

Based on the 7hp "pretty weak" dyno results on the CAIs would you recommend I hold off on buying one until there are better performing ones?

I'm interested in the aFe Takeda CAI which produced +9hp +10tq

http://afepower.com/shop/details_new...ily&brandID=78

You will not get 9hp from that system, it will give 7hp gain and 9hp peak meaningits not a consistent 9hp. Don't get me wrong its a good intake but with some other mods with a tune you will be good. If you find a post that i made about a rubbwe tube you will see what I'm going for. Best thing to do is drop a filter in and wait

[FT-86 SpeedFactory]

A tune with parts will make this car shine, just as any other.

A part alone will net small gains. A part with a tune to take advantage of the increased air flow will net even larger gains.

A tune should be on anyone's list as they add parts to their car. You decide when you take that plunge.

[ngabdala]

I did a search for a rubbwe tube and this is the only post I found those words/ lmao

I'm guessing you meant rubber tube.

Originally Posted by 20valvewynn83

You will not get 9hp from that system, it will give 7hp gain and 9hp peak meaningits not a consistent 9hp. Don't get me wrong its a good intake but with some other mods with a tune you will be good. If you find a post that i made about a rubbwe tube you will see what I'm going for. Best thing to do is drop a filter in and wait

[ngabdala]

Are you getting the full kit from Zeta? Which filter? Purple or Silver?

I want it now

Originally Posted by 20valvewynn83

You will not get 9hp from that system, it will give 7hp gain and 9hp peak meaningits not a consistent 9hp. Don't get me wrong its a good intake but with some other mods with a tune you will be good. If you find a post that i made about a rubbwe tube you will see what I'm going for. Best thing to do is drop a filter in and wait

[20valvewynn83]

Originally Posted by ngabdala

I did a search for a rubbwe tube and this is the only post I found those words/ lmao

I'm guessing you meant rubber tube.

Haha yeah that's what I ment sorry I was using my phone

[20valvewynn83]

Originally Posted by ngabdala

Are you getting the full kit from Zeta? Which filter? Purple or Silver?

I want it now

Depending on the price of the filers I will see. But if I do I prefer dry filters but I haven't made q choice yet.

[ngabdala]

I hear oiled has more air-flow and they can also be cleaned and re-oiled. The trick is not too much oil or MAF goes nutty

Originally Posted by 20valvewynn83

Depending on the price of the filers I will see. But if I do I prefer dry filters but I haven't made q choice yet.