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ngabdala 08-25-2012 10:25 PM

Does CAI brand matter or just the filter?
 
I have a buddy that has modded cars and currently works for New York Transit as a mechanic for buses.

He suggests I buy the cheapest CAI I find on Ebay and to switch out the filter with a quality one. He says it's not the CAI brand that matters, it's the filter. I was going to pre-order the AfE Takeda for $367 but now I'm hesitant to.

Anyone know if this is true?

mike2100 08-25-2012 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ngabdala (Post 402755)
Anyone know if this is true?

Unless you've swapped in a bus engine I'd say unlikely.

ngabdala 08-25-2012 10:41 PM

Lol. My friend has modded his cars. He's a good mechanic car or bus :)

And, alot of people make their own intakes. Maybe he's right. As long as there is a tight-seal that is.


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Originally Posted by mike2100 (Post 402776)
Unless you've swapped in a bus engine I'd say unlikely.


FT-86 SpeedFactory 08-25-2012 11:16 PM

There is a difference between intakes. Tube deigns, where it's pulling air from, fit and finish, and etc. Not all are alike. Sure there is a basic concept but there are differences.

Superhatch 08-25-2012 11:22 PM

If the run is the same it will likely be close. Some of the higher end intake mfgs will put a thermal paint on their tubes vs. the bare ones you see and they claim that this helps reduce heat transfer.

20valvewynn83 08-25-2012 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ngabdala (Post 402755)
I have a buddy that has modded cars and currently works for New York Transit as a mechanic for buses.

He suggests I buy the cheapest CAI I find on Ebay and to switch out the filter with a quality one. He says it's not the CAI brand that matters, it's the filter. I was going to pre-order the AfE Takeda for $367 but now I'm hesitant to.

Anyone know if this is true?

Ok this is the reality! So far cold air intakes dynos show about a 7hp gain and that's pretty weak compared to the 5hp gains that a drop in filter makes (per dyno testing). People can think they know what they are talking about (most the time its people who have never had a car tunes) but you gain more hp by altering the part of the air box before the filter, the use of a velocity stack with some type of ram air entry to the air box will help most with a drop in filter. I also like to use silicon hoses from the throttle body to the air box to make a smoother flow with less heat soak to keep the engine temperature down.

ngabdala 08-26-2012 12:20 AM

Based on the 7hp "pretty weak" dyno results on the CAIs would you recommend I hold off on buying one until there are better performing ones?

I'm interested in the aFe Takeda CAI which produced +9hp +10tq

http://afepower.com/shop/details_new...ily&brandID=78

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Originally Posted by 20valvewynn83 (Post 402868)
Ok this is the reality! So far cold air intakes dynos show about a 7hp gain and that's pretty weak compared to the 5hp gains that a drop in filter makes (per dyno testing). People can think they know what they are talking about (most the time its people who have never had a car tunes) but you gain more hp by altering the part of the air box before the filter, the use of a velocity stack with some type of ram air entry to the air box will help most with a drop in filter. I also like to use silicon hoses from the throttle body to the air box to make a smoother flow with less heat soak to keep the engine temperature down.


20valvewynn83 08-26-2012 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ngabdala (Post 402933)
Based on the 7hp "pretty weak" dyno results on the CAIs would you recommend I hold off on buying one until there are better performing ones?

I'm interested in the aFe Takeda CAI which produced +9hp +10tq

http://afepower.com/shop/details_new...ily&brandID=78

You will not get 9hp from that system, it will give 7hp gain and 9hp peak meaningits not a consistent 9hp. Don't get me wrong its a good intake but with some other mods with a tune you will be good. If you find a post that i made about a rubbwe tube you will see what I'm going for. Best thing to do is drop a filter in and wait :)

FT-86 SpeedFactory 08-26-2012 12:37 AM

A tune with parts will make this car shine, just as any other.

A part alone will net small gains. A part with a tune to take advantage of the increased air flow will net even larger gains.

A tune should be on anyone's list as they add parts to their car. You decide when you take that plunge. :)

ngabdala 08-26-2012 12:39 AM

I did a search for a rubbwe tube and this is the only post I found those words/ lmao :)

I'm guessing you meant rubber tube.

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Originally Posted by 20valvewynn83 (Post 402950)
You will not get 9hp from that system, it will give 7hp gain and 9hp peak meaningits not a consistent 9hp. Don't get me wrong its a good intake but with some other mods with a tune you will be good. If you find a post that i made about a rubbwe tube you will see what I'm going for. Best thing to do is drop a filter in and wait :)


ngabdala 08-26-2012 12:46 AM

Are you getting the full kit from Zeta? Which filter? Purple or Silver?

I want it now :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 20valvewynn83 (Post 402950)
You will not get 9hp from that system, it will give 7hp gain and 9hp peak meaningits not a consistent 9hp. Don't get me wrong its a good intake but with some other mods with a tune you will be good. If you find a post that i made about a rubbwe tube you will see what I'm going for. Best thing to do is drop a filter in and wait :)


20valvewynn83 08-26-2012 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngabdala (Post 402957)
I did a search for a rubbwe tube and this is the only post I found those words/ lmao :)

I'm guessing you meant rubber tube.

Haha yeah that's what I ment sorry I was using my phone

20valvewynn83 08-26-2012 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ngabdala (Post 402967)
Are you getting the full kit from Zeta? Which filter? Purple or Silver?

I want it now :)

Depending on the price of the filers I will see. But if I do I prefer dry filters but I haven't made q choice yet.

ngabdala 08-26-2012 01:10 AM

I hear oiled has more air-flow and they can also be cleaned and re-oiled. The trick is not too much oil or MAF goes nutty

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Originally Posted by 20valvewynn83 (Post 403004)
Depending on the price of the filers I will see. But if I do I prefer dry filters but I haven't made q choice yet.



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