Feedback on P2M subframe collars?

[grippgoat]

I couldn't find any real feedback on these:

https://www.phase2motortrend.com/pro...brzgt86-tp.htm

I'm looking for alternatives to Spoon. I haven't found any US dealers that have the Spoon ones. I had previously ordered them from Blackhawk Japan, but Trump tariffs made a shit show out of that, and they ended up back in Japan.

I contacted P2M to get the install instructions to see where they go / how they fit. They only go under the bolt heads to close the gap between the bolt and the subframe. There's nothing at the interface between the subframe and the chassis. But since the bolt head is like 3-4" away from the chassis both front and rear, I'm not really sure how effect they'd be. My main goal is to keep the subframe(s) from shifting due to curb strikes and bumpy agricultural excursions, as well as getting them centered back up again after messing with them.

Thanks,
-Mike

[Racecomp Engineering]

I've been thinking about making some but haven't had the time with all other projects this year.

Is that kit for front and rear?

- Andrew

[grippgoat]

Yes. But it only goes on the bolt heads. Nothing at the subframe to chassis interface.

Spoon USA said they can special order Spoon for $195 per axle + shipping. I might just do that.

-Mike

[2.2Lude]

I ran the spoon collars on my TSX front and rear. It was a notable difference when going over rough surfaces - I lack the technical knowledge to fully explain the feeling but can say the suspension was more compliant and working more efficiently. The collars also showed up on the alignment rack. Caster was more even.

[grippgoat]

Originally Posted by 2.2Lude

I ran the spoon collars on my TSX front and rear. It was a notable difference when going over rough surfaces - I lack the technical knowledge to fully explain the feeling but can say the suspension was more compliant and working more efficiently. The collars also showed up on the alignment rack. Caster was more even.

I have Tyrol sport collars on my Golf R, and I agree it's difficult to describe, but noticeable. I believe in the Spoon ones. This thread is whether the p2m ones actually accomplish similar, or not.