GR86 vs S2000 drag race - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Dirty Harry · 03-06-2023, 02:51 AM

GR86 vs S2000 drag race, interesting result.

NoHaveMSG · 03-06-2023, 11:12 AM

Eh, about what I expect to see. Doesn't help the twins, first or second gen, don't launch well or consistently due to the shit anti squat curve that comes with borrowing suspension parts from an awd car.

Ultramaroon · 03-06-2023, 03:20 PM

They should've traded cars. Skinny guy in the 86 would take it every time.

nikitopo · 03-07-2023, 09:34 AM

Results as expected.

JDMChris · 03-07-2023, 08:33 PM

This was with the slower 2.0L S2K as well.

PulsarBeeerz · 03-07-2023, 11:00 PM

I'm too nice. Wanna see an AP1 lose to an automatic GR86? Its at 8:58. As expected. 215 Primacy's vs 235 Direzza ZIII no less.

alex87f · 03-08-2023, 09:32 AM

Weird. I did have my doubts about how inconsistent that NZ video's results are..

DarkSunrise · 03-08-2023, 05:59 PM

At best both are high 13 second cars, not surprising it’s a drivers race. Theoretically the GR86 is faster (slightly quicker time and trap), but it’s very close.

Stonehorsw · 03-13-2023, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

Eh, about what I expect to see. Doesn't help the twins, first or second gen, don't launch well or consistently due to the shit anti squat curve that comes with borrowing suspension parts from an awd car.

Is the rear suspension geometry carry over from the WRX?

NoHaveMSG · 03-13-2023, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stonehorsw

Is the rear suspension geometry carry over from the WRX?

I don't think it is exact, but it is close. Same upper and lower control arm. I think our trailing arm is shorter, not 100% sure though, knuckle is different too.

Stonehorsw · 03-13-2023, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

I don't think it is exact, but it is close. Same upper and lower control arm. I think our trailing arm is shorter, not 100% sure though, knuckle is different too.

Tks, I see that MCA from Aus (a while ago) and now Jackson Racing released suspension pickup changes to improve anti-squat. Probably I will necro the conversation and see what would be advantages vs disadvantages.

Have you ever tested any of those?

NoHaveMSG · 03-14-2023, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stonehorsw

Tks, I see that MCA from Aus (a while ago) and now Jackson Racing released suspension pickup changes to improve anti-squat. Probably I will necro the conversation and see what would be advantages vs disadvantages.

Have you ever tested any of those?

I haven't, not allowed to alter suspension pickup points for my class(s) my car is setup for. Largely positive reviews in the threads I have read on it.

Decep · 03-25-2023, 12:51 AM

Never seen a red s2000. Car has aged like a fine wine

HotlavaFRSGT86 · 08-20-2025, 05:33 PM

Really the 86 should take the S2000, especially the earlier 2 liter. The new 86 has 30 ft/lbs more torque, very close to the same weight, and better trans gearing. I know the S2k can rev to 8,500 which gives a few more mph between gears over the 86, but whatever. The driver must be that much heavier than the other, possibly even had a sack of cat litter and groceries in the trunk, who knows. But the twins seem to lose to EVERYTHING in the 1/4. It took me a lot of $$$ in parts and Ecu tuning plus the time just to get mine to where its "acceptable enough" to me. I'm sure any of you who have done what i have or even more feel the same, but i still love the car nonetheless. I know its not a drag car, but i always felt like a 3.0 liter V6 should have been the engine for this car.

03-06-2023, 02:51 AM	#1
Dirty Harry Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Drives: 2013 BRZ Satin White Pearl Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 645 Thanks: 594 Thanked 679 Times in 336 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	GR86 vs S2000 drag race GR86 vs S2000 drag race, interesting result.

03-06-2023, 03:20 PM	#3
Ultramaroon not playing cards Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: a 13 e8h frs Location: vantucky, wa Posts: 32,396 Thanks: 53,053 Thanked 37,225 Times in 19,308 Posts Mentioned: 1117 Post(s) Tagged: 9 Thread(s)	They should've traded cars. Skinny guy in the 86 would take it every time. __________________ service manuals

03-08-2023, 05:59 PM	#8
DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,797 Thanks: 2,186 Thanked 4,243 Times in 2,221 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	At best both are high 13 second cars, not surprising it’s a drivers race. Theoretically the GR86 is faster (slightly quicker time and trap), but it’s very close. __________________ "Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time." 2022 BRZ Build 2013 FR-S Build

03-25-2023, 12:51 AM	#13
Decep Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Drives: 2013 FR-S Series 10 Location: CA Posts: 1,073 Thanks: 172 Thanked 497 Times in 326 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Never seen a red s2000. Car has aged like a fine wine __________________ 2013 FR-S 10 Series ~75k (SOLD) RCE SS-1 Coilovers Corsa Catback Edelbrock Supercharger installed @ 50k

08-20-2025, 05:33 PM	#14
HotlavaFRSGT86 Keep ICE alive+manuals Join Date: Aug 2016 Drives: 2015 Hot Lava 6 spd Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 136 Thanks: 83 Thanked 73 Times in 45 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Really the 86 should take the S2000, especially the earlier 2 liter. The new 86 has 30 ft/lbs more torque, very close to the same weight, and better trans gearing. I know the S2k can rev to 8,500 which gives a few more mph between gears over the 86, but whatever. The driver must be that much heavier than the other, possibly even had a sack of cat litter and groceries in the trunk, who knows. But the twins seem to lose to EVERYTHING in the 1/4. It took me a lot of $$$ in parts and Ecu tuning plus the time just to get mine to where its "acceptable enough" to me. I'm sure any of you who have done what i have or even more feel the same, but i still love the car nonetheless. I know its not a drag car, but i always felt like a 3.0 liter V6 should have been the engine for this car. __________________ If your not first your last - Ricky Bobby

03-07-2023, 09:34 AM	#4
nikitopo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: '15 BRZ RA Location: Greece Posts: 3,787 Thanks: 2,417 Thanked 1,947 Times in 1,263 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Results as expected.

03-07-2023, 08:33 PM	#5
JDMChris Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2016 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 280 Thanks: 51 Thanked 122 Times in 89 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	This was with the slower 2.0L S2K as well.

03-07-2023, 11:00 PM	#6
PulsarBeeerz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Drives: JRSC BRZ SOLD Location: Ohio Posts: 939 Thanks: 682 Thanked 741 Times in 396 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm too nice. Wanna see an AP1 lose to an automatic GR86? Its at 8:58. As expected. 215 Primacy's vs 235 Direzza ZIII no less.

03-08-2023, 09:32 AM	#7
alex87f Meow Join Date: Aug 2017 Drives: GT86 (now sold) Location: France Posts: 546 Thanks: 330 Thanked 461 Times in 244 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Weird. I did have my doubts about how inconsistent that NZ video's results are..

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