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gymratter 11-13-2020 01:21 PM

Toyota GR86 will arrive in Europe and other markets after all?
 
https://www.actualidadmotor.com/wp-c...confirmado.jpg

https://www.actualidadmotor.com/conf...gara-a-europa/

the fake news said this was taken at yesterdays presentation for the GR Yaris. the only thing i can find to collaborate the Yaris event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byGAAwXtlFA

Tokay444 11-13-2020 01:29 PM

That's just new nomenclature for GT.

daiheadjai 11-13-2020 02:52 PM

Nah, Toyota's just doing what they can to help Europe's flagging birth rates

Tcoat 11-13-2020 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 3382905)
That's just new nomenclature for GT.

Not sure I am a fan of using it for all the models. If they have special input from GR, for a special version, with special GR gofast parts (like the Yaris) then OK it is a GR edition. If they are going to just slap GR on all versions (like they have with the Supra) it is a meaningless marketing ploy.

Ohio Enthusiast 11-13-2020 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3382994)
Not sure I am a fan of using it for all the models... If they are going to just slap GR on all versions (like they have with the Supra) it is a meaningless marketing ploy.

So kinda like BMW M? And Mercedes AMG? Cadillac V? Audi S-Line? Hyundai N-Line? Ford ST-Line? Damn, even ST (coming from a FoST, I have a soft spot for the ST badge)! It would be nice to have a manufacturer actually hold on to their integrity in the face of marketing, but somehow I doubt we'll ever see it again.

On the other hand, Toyota using GR only for the sporty lineup is almost saintly by today's standard. So long as there's no GR Sienna, I'll give them a star for the effort.

C4RBON 11-13-2020 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast (Post 3383021)
So kinda like BMW M? And Mercedes AMG? Cadillac V? Audi S-Line? Hyundai N-Line? Ford ST-Line? Damn, even ST (coming from a FoST, I have a soft spot for the ST badge)! It would be nice to have a manufacturer actually hold on to their integrity in the face of marketing, but somehow I doubt we'll ever see it again.

On the other hand, Toyota using GR only for the sporty lineup is almost saintly by today's standard. So long as there's no GR Sienna, I'll give them a star for the effort.


That's what TRD is for!

Tcoat 11-13-2020 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohio Enthusiast (Post 3383021)
So long as there's no GR Sienna, I'll give them a star for the effort.

Yep As an old school Mopar guy this abomination to nature makes me scream every time I see one.

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY4WDEwM...frunt/$_59.JPG
https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY4WDEwM...frunt/$_59.JPG

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Originally Posted by C4RBON (Post 3383024)
That's what TRD is for!

Yes. GR should be an actual RACE edition not just a badge on all of them.

soundman98 11-13-2020 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3382994)
Not sure I am a fan of using it for all the models. If they have special input from GR, for a special version, with special GR gofast parts (like the Yaris) then OK it is a GR edition. If they are going to just slap GR on all versions (like they have with the Supra) it is a meaningless marketing ploy.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instan...ne-will-be.jpg

C4RBON 11-13-2020 10:00 PM

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Yes. GR should be an actual RACE edition not just a badge on all of them.

I can't help but think there was some disagreement/infighting within Toyota on what TRD is used for. It was hijacked by North America marketing for NASCAR and trucks, and the Toyota mothership was not pleased. Now we have two performance divisions.

Tcoat 11-13-2020 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98 (Post 3383029)

This sums up my opinion perfectly!

Tcoat 11-13-2020 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C4RBON (Post 3383030)
I can't help but think there was some disagreement/infighting within Toyota on what TRD is used for. It was hijacked by North America marketing for NASCAR and trucks, and the Toyota mothership was not pleased. Now we have two performance divisions.

The GR Yaris is a good use of the GR badge. It surpasses what you would normally see from TRD.
The GR badge on a base Supra (as good as the car may be) or 86 is just deception at it's finest.

JD001 11-14-2020 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3382994)
Not sure I am a fan of using it for all the models. If they have special input from GR, for a special version, with special GR gofast parts (like the Yaris) then OK it is a GR edition. If they are going to just slap GR on all versions (like they have with the Supra) it is a meaningless marketing ploy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by C4RBON (Post 3383024)
That's what TRD is for!

I just can't get past 'TRD' reading "TuRD".. no idea why but I have this association.. GR is harmless although Gazoo is too much like Yazoo (80s electronic band and a milk drink)...

Tcoat 11-14-2020 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 3383106)
I just can't get past 'TRD' reading "TuRD".. no idea why but I have this association.. GR is harmless although Gazoo is too much like Yazoo (80s electronic band and a milk drink)...

I have never associated TRD with anything but Gazoo was horrible.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/97...b5a5023348.gif

ZDan 11-14-2020 11:11 AM

I'm a fan of no extra names/emblems/badging for "hot" versions of cars.


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